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  • From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Upcoming - under Dem/Obama reign - wsj
  • Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:53:55 -0400


Bev; Doesn't it bother you that both McCain and Obama voted for the
bailout? If forcing tax payers to subsidize the loses of wall street
isn't socialism, what is? Tax cuts for the rich/tax cuts for the
poor...the tax plans are the same, but opposite (how is one socialism
and one not?). Both voted FOR the Patriot Act, which is eroding our
freedom. Do you really think it matters who wins? Both are in the pocket
of big business and will serve their overlords.

There ARE people running for president who would NOT have voted that
way. Candidates who believe in civic liberties and the constitution, but
few people have the guts to support them. That's why we keep getting
more of the same, or worse.

Lynn Wigglesworth

EarthNSky wrote:
> Gene GeRue wrote:
>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:34 AM, EarthNSky wrote:
>>
>>> You seem to be worried a lot about the rights of sovereign
>>> countries, but not about the rights of your fellow Americans.
>> Bev, do you really think that personal insults help the search for
>> truth?
>
> Ask yourself the same question Gene. When is enough, enough on
> politics? I wasn't searching for any kind of truth, I was stating my
> opinion. I take it as a personal insult every time you write 'The
> Revolution is BO...blah blah blah'.. You are entitled to believe anyway
> you want, just as I am. I resent, however, your comments that reflect
> your views that socialism is a good thing. I am sick to death of Bush
> and Republican bashing. It is beating a dead horse. I am tired of
> feeling like I have to defend my country at every turn. I will gladly
> do that, but I shouldn't have to, especially to another American. You
> seem to constantly degrade and find fault with America, and that is
> insulting to me. I love my country for better or for worse, but Obama is
> not what the founding father's envisioned for America.
>
> Laugh if you want, but for me, these discussions are as serious as life
> and death. This is not philosophical entertainment for me. This
> election scares me...it is sinking in that everything I have worked for
> for the last 10 years is for nothing....My children will never inherit
> this place. My granddaughter will not know freedom of speech. Had I
> known that Barack Obama would bring Socialism to America, and worse,
> that a majority would happily accept such, I would have never had
> children. I feel that strongly about it. It occurs to me that even if
> McCain wins the election this time, that Obama will be back in 2012 and
> we will do this all over again. If he doesn't win this time, he will
> win next time, because people want a handout in this country. They have
> short memories, and don't look beyond next year. They don't look at
> anything long term, how freedoms erode, or sustainable economics. I
> was in tears and had chest pains yesterday afternoon because I was upset
> and frustrated over conversations on this list. It is the second such
> time in a week. It seems that we can no longer even have a conversation
> about something as wonderful as Old Books without the election/socialism
> rearing its head. I am increasingly feeling less a part of Homestead.
> The rift is taking its toll on me. Perhaps I should move on, or better
> yet, hunker down and disappear, because people like me will soon be even
> more of a target, recall this part of the subject article:
>
> *Free speech will be curtailed through the reimposition of the Fairness
> Doctrine to limit the conservative talk radio that so irritates the
> liberal establishment.
>
> It just seems to me like any voice of opposition is getting squashed or
> belittled. I know I am not alone..look at how Joe the Plumber was
> treated, Palin's email was broken into, Strategic Vision Polling's death
> threats, the snubbing of the Florida news station, and you calling me
> out here because I voiced my opinion on how I see the slant of your
> posts....that you are more concerned about the sovereignty of other
> countries(I can't count how many times you have mentioned this, once
> again even since I started writing this response), but there have been
> no comments from you as to how personal rights and freedoms will be
> affected by an Obama Presidency where Democrats control the Congress and
> the Judicial branch is left leaning as well. There will be no checks
> and balances...all three branches of government will be liberally left
> of center, pushing to the radical left by the leadership of the Party,
> and there will be no brakes, no checks. There is no mention of this,
> only Bush bashing and the embracement of socialist policy. That is what
> I see from your posts.
>
> Bev
>
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