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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

She is not "sovereign" in this country, nor are you.  She must abide by the 
wishes and whims of people with guns.  She must register with numbers, simply 
to exist.  She must pay for the gov't to do things which the Constitution did 
not insist, and with which she does not agree; as do I.

You write: "Those who forget history repeat it. It is important to never stop 
reminding people of wrongdoings.".  Well, let us hear about slickobama's 
history.  Why will the L.A. Times, who have endorsed him, not release the 
video tape showing him partying with a Palestian terrorist?  Could it be 
because of losing Jewsish money and votes?

Why have we not heard from asny of Slickbama's university. friends, dope 
dealers, girlfriends, travelmates to Pakistan.  Hey, I'm open minded.  I'd 
vote for a black, bisexual transvestite, if I thought that that person would 
actually pay allegiance to the Constitution.

Why the great secrecy.  Maybe there is much to hide; much to fear ?  .Let's 
see the great man's history, so that we don't have to repeat some of the 
mistakes of ours ..... bobf  


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--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com> wrote:

> From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Upcoming - under Dem/Obama reign  - wsj
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:22 PM
> On Oct 28, 2008, at 1:17 PM, EarthNSky wrote:
> 
> > Gene GeRue wrote:
> >> On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:34 AM, EarthNSky wrote:
> >>
> >>> You seem to be worried a lot about the rights
> of sovereign
> >>> countries, but not about the rights of your
> fellow Americans.
> >>
> >> Bev, do you really think that personal insults
> help the search for
> >> truth?
> >
> > Ask yourself the same question Gene.  When is enough,
> enough on
> > politics?
> 
> It is never enough to stop exposing criminality. The
> Supreme  
> Presidency and the DC Whorehouse exist as they do because
> too few  
> Americans make efforts to expose it and to vote against the
>  
> wrongdoers. "The price of freedom is eternal
> vigilance."
> 
> > I wasn't searching for any kind of truth,
> 
> I am always searching for truth.
> 
> > I was stating my opinion.
> 
> That is about all that any of us have anymore. Like arguing
> religion  
> and quoting selected biblical passages, there are ample
> quotes from  
> myriad sources to support any position today.
> 
> >  I take it as a personal insult every time you write
> 'The
> > Revolution is BO...blah blah blah'..
> 
> My opinion about Barack Obama is insulting to you? There is
> no  
> connection in my mind between what I think about Barack
> Obama and what  
> I think about you. I respect your opinions and I expect you
> to respect  
> mine.
> 
> But when you say that I am not worried about the rights of
> my fellow  
> Americans, that is personally insulting to me.
> 
> > You are entitled to believe anyway
> > you want, just as I am. I resent, however, your
> comments that reflect
> > your views that socialism is a good thing.
> 
> You resent me stating my positions regarding socialism?
> Wow. Any other  
> subjects about which you resent my expressions?
> 
> >  I am sick to death of Bush
> > and Republican bashing. It is beating a dead horse.
> 
> Those who forget history repeat it. It is important to
> never stop  
> reminding people of wrongdoings.
> 
> > I am tired of
> > feeling like I have to defend my country at every
> turn.
> 
> Well, then, stop doing it. How you react is your choice.
> You are a  
> sovereign citizen.
> 
> >  I will gladly
> > do that, but I shouldn't have to, especially to
> another American. You
> > seem to constantly degrade and find fault with
> America, and that is
> > insulting to me. I love my country for better or for
> worse,
> 
> Loving "for better or for worse" is a
> problematical stance, I think.  
> It requires excusing and accepting wrongdoings.
> 
> > but Obama is
> > not what the founding father's envisioned for
> America.
> 
> 
> Perhaps. Certainly they did not envision an imperial
> presidency.
> >
> > Laugh if you want, but for me, these discussions are
> as serious as  
> > life
> > and death.  This is not philosophical entertainment
> for me.
> 
> You are on to something there. This election may well
> result in life  
> or death for many of our citizens in many different
> situations. War  
> and health care come most immediately to mind.
> 
> >  This election scares me...it is sinking in that
> everything I have  
> > worked for
> > for the last 10 years is for nothing....
> 
> Wow. I feel bad that you feel that way. About all I can
> suggest is  
> that you have long talks with people you respect.
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