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[william Eggers <wce1482 AT yahoo.com>]

Lets turn this around.  How would you feel if Canada or Mexico decided that 
they needed to cross our border and attack someone without declaring war?

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] So, what do you think of the Powell endorsement?
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:55 PM


Marie McHarry wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:37 PM, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> 
>> I know!  He's the guy that was going to invade Pakistan, remember?
>> Sometimes, the hard decision is not to act at all.
>>
> What he has actually consistently said is that if he had intelligence
> that located Bin Laden or other Al Qaida terrorists in Pakistan and
> *Pakistan was unwilling to act* he would authorize action to get those
> guys. Depending on conditions at the time, it could be reasonable.

He may be saying that, too, but that is not the clip I heard/saw.  What 
I saw was his answer to a question about insurgent forces hiding in 
Pakistan coming across the lines to ambush and raid our troop, and he 
was asked if we should be allowed to follow them back across the line 
into Pakistan, essentially, invading without authorization, especially 
since the Pakistan government has forbid us to enter their country.
Obama said we should go after them.

Ironically, I actually agree with that...the McCain campaign did not, 
but I do.


> 
> Pakistan is our biggest danger right now, IMO -- far worse than Iran,
> Iraq, or even Afghanistan. And they got nukes.

Nukes, submarines, and a power vacuum.  Not a good mix of things.

-- 
“Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to 
hate. Hate leads to suffering.”        Yoda
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It will be even worse if people actually SEE their vote flipped on the 
machine, as apparently is already happening in some of the early voting. 
Heck, if that happened to me, *I'd* be out there screaming. Civil unrest 
is not ALWAYS a bad thing if people have a legitimate complaint. Since 
2000, people have been demanding a more transparent voting system. 
Instead we get machines with "little black boxes" instead of accessible 
code, and no paper trail (made by a company whose CEO promised to 
deliver the election to Bush).

http://www.youdecide2008.com/2008/10/21/voting-fraud-fears-grow/
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/voting-machine.html
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6540

Lynn Wigglesworth

bob ford wrote:
>  Leading The News       
> 
> Police prepare for unrest  
> 
> By Alexander Bolton  
> 
> Posted: 10/21/08 07:58 PM [ET]  
> 
> Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks 
> for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the 
> historic presidential contest.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Excerpts:
> 
> ......" (James) Carville said earlier this month that “it would be very, 
> very, very dramatic out there” if Obama lost, a statement some commentators 
> interpreted as predicting riots.".............
> 
> ........But Tate declined to describe what the worst-case scenario might 
> look like, speaking gingerly like other police officials who are wary of 
> implying that black voters are more likely than other voting groups to 
> cause trouble.................
> 
> ...............Shelton, of the NAACP, said he understands the need for 
> police to maintain order. But he is also concerned that some political 
> partisans may point their finger at black voters as potential troublemakers 
> because the Democratic nominee is black..........
> 
> ...........Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of 
> foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black 
> populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in 
> urban areas (following professional sports events) and also on Internet 
> rumors.
> 
> 
> Democratic strategists and advocates for black voters say they understand 
> officers wanting to keep the peace, but caution that excessive police 
> presence could intimidate voters................"
> 
> 
> http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/police-prepare-for-unrest-2008-10-21.html
> 
>  
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