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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

I thought what bev said was that liddiy "did his time", and that ayers did 
not.  That is the case , of course.

I live in Liddy's hometown.  I have never listened to his show. (I'm probably 
one of the few people in this country who has never even heard the Rush 
Limbaugh show--though I know who he is and what he sounds like).

Liddy despises Dean, because Dean was not loyal to the President, as Liddy 
was loyal.  Dean was a "rat". I have read that others share that opinion of 
Dean. i don't have an opinion, 'don't really care.  I think Dean did what he 
did to save his own butt, 'maybe he was right.  

Ayers was, and maybe still, is a spoiled little sh*t (I think I'm borrowing 
that from Marie), who got off because of his daddy's money and influence.  
.............bobford


--- On Fri, 10/17/08, paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: paxamicus AT earthlink.net <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] McCain/Liddy
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 11:37 AM
> I have never heard Liddy be anything even remotely
> resembling  
> repentant. He had a radio show on in DC in which he
> frequently and  
> vociferously attacked John Dean for being a traitor and a
> turn coat to  
> the Republican cause.
> Ayers, on the other hand, seems to have redeemed himself
> (to my  
> satisfaction). And Obama is by no means the only politician
> who has  
> worked with Ayers. In fact, it was a Republican sponsored
> effort upon  
> which he worked with Ayers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:11 PM, EarthNSky wrote:
> >
> > I think and for me, the difference is someone who is
> repentant and
> > served their time.
> > By our current definitions, both Liddy and Ayers would
> probably be  
> > dt's.
> > Liddy served time and has been apologetic.
> > Ayers prouldy confessed his crimes,  but charges were
> dropped because
> > the FBI illegally wiretapped him.  He was convicted of
> possession of
> > explosive, but did no prison for the offense.  He was
> a fugitive for
> > years and has since been unrepentant.  In his mind, he
> did nothing  
> > wrong.
> > Had Ayers, over 40 years, come out and say, I was
> young and stupid and
> > my actions were terrible, horrible acts of violence
> against innocent
> > people, but today I realize that change should be
> affected through
> > non-violent means only, then I might feel differently
> about the guy.
> > IMO, just because the guy has not committed an act in
> some many years
> > does not make him any less dangerous, in fact, if
> there has been no
> > mental reversal, it may have him more dangerous.
> > The other difference is that McCain and Liddy have had
> a relationship
> > that is 'airways-open' for
> 'inspection', so to speak, and McCain has
> > addressed that and not lied about it.
> > Obama on the other hand, lied about his connections to
> Ayers, at first
> > saying he didn't know him-only a guy from his
> neighborhood.  Now, he
> > gives us Ayers' resume and says Ayers doesn't
> advise him.  I  
> > personally
> > don't think he is telling the truth, and that is
> certainly not the
> > extent of the relationship.  Why is he hiding or
> avoiding talking  
> > about
> > the nitty gritty details?
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