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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Short-term versus long-term
  • Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:23:51 -0700 (PDT)

I was in the market a couple of weeks ago and was looking in the fozen fish
showcase. As I was moving packages around to see info, a lady in her
twenties stood beside me looking, perplexed, at the fish. Since I was
taller(could reach further --case is wide) I asked if I could grab her
something. She replied "have you found something from America? "

Even in the fresh fish display, alot of the fish comes from china, and other
asian countries. I always buy U.S. raised fish, regardless of price (fresh,
U.S. raised catfish runs about $5.00 -- $7.00 per lb., 'is cheaper if on sale
OR frozen). That is a choice. I don't mind paying for that choice. That
lady was making a choice, also. I like this freedom of choice . We also
have a chinese grocery store where you can buy chinese stuff...........bobford


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Wendy <crazygardens AT verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Wendy <crazygardens AT verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Short-term versus long-term
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:33 PM
> I personally do not want my fish dipped in melamine or
> anyother non-fishy
> substance. The fault is not in the regulations, but in
> that they were not
> applied across the board. And.... I do not think hunger or
> destitution will
> have anything to do with the remaking of our economy. The
> same force that
> caused this mess will pull us out of it..... greed. Nature
> abhors a vacuum
> and so does the free market. If there is a market niche,
> it will be filled.
> I am just hoping that there are still enough old machinists
> around to run
> the old machine shops.
>
> Wendy
> who is hoping this collapse is total and absolute.
>
>
> >
> >
> >> >I think is time to dig out my old aquaponics
> notes. What has Tom and
> >> Paula
> >> been up lately?
> >
> > Wendy, I think you are absolutely right about this
> .... with a couple of
> > provisos.
> >
> > It is quite true that what will happen is that soon
> there will be no
> > Chinese
> > imports and the fish aisle will be empty. Then there
> will be expensive US
> > fish there.
> >
> > And by all means dust off the aquaculture notes, even
> if you don't sell
> > fish,
> > you'd have fish to eat.
> >
> > But one of the main reasons that US fish is scarce and
> expensive is the
> > moronic and laconic regulations. The Chinese can dip
> fish in vats of
> > melamine and
> > sell them to us, but if we don't pay obeisance to
> the fascist
> > Agribusiness, we
> > are enjoined by law not to traffic in fish.
> >
> > I hope hunger will change that.
> >
> > Not just fish, but as soon as bolts and fittings
> can' t be imported,
> > people
> > will dust off the numerous machine shops, .... then
> sewing shops,
> > carpentry
> > shops, injection molding businesses, etc. etc. As I
> have often opined,
> > in this
> > new way of things emerging, it is only the those who
> expect to sit by the
> > computer and watch their annuities amass that are
> going to hurt. It will
> > take
> > some time to get there, but hunger and destitution are
> great motivators.
> > </HTML>
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