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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Rasing children is a personal decision of the child's parents.  Saying that 
,even with decisions you would find disagreeable, you would still accept the 
child is a pretty good answer, especially from someone with your conservative 
beliefs.  In the South, and in my own family (cousins), people just don't 
talk about the obvious, and then live their lives.  I guess that would be 
unintentional libertarianism.  Me , I'm way out there 'liberal' on these type 
positions; but everybody has their own beleif system.  ....I had to google 
Tevye, I saw Fiddler On The Roof over thirty years ago, but I see the 
reference you are making ........bobf 



----- Original Message ----
From: "rayzentz AT aim.com" <rayzentz AT aim.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:23:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] vote for Obama or you are a racist

That goes to the heart of some of my personal beliefs, and I don't mind 
responding.  Here is how I look at it, and be aware this is my 
opinion, and I am not pushing this on anyone else.  If you are 
sensitive regarding this issue, and cannot tolerate a strong expression 
of free speech, and personal beliefs, do not read any further.  You 
have been warned.

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Skin color is a matter of birth, and one has absolutely no control over 
it.

Gender preference is a matter of choice, despite the rantings to the 
contrary of those who seek to push on me, and my family, and on my 
society, an acceptance of their perversions.

I do not descriminate against anyone regarding things beyond their 
control.  I do descriminate against people based on their choices.  I 
choose who I will "accept", and who I will merely "tolerate".  People 
who choose to live in ways I believe are immoral, or harmful to 
themselves or others, I must "tolerate".  That is due to both law, and 
personal beliefs.  I do not have to "accept" their behavior, however, 
and don't.

So, the answer to your question is this.  My use of language regarding 
gender was deliberate.  I would find it very difficult to accept the 
situation you speak of.  Could I learn to tolerate it?  Perhaps.  
Accept it?  Probably never.

I20can see myself being like Tevye.  Would I still love my daughter?  
Yes.  Would she and her partner be welcome in my home?  No.  Would 
that be a heart-breaking situation?  Yes.  Would I treat her like she 
was dead?  Probably not.  Would this mean I waffled on my beliefs?  
I don't know.  I would probably struggle with this my whole life.

No one ever said life was easy.

Ray



-----Original Message-----
From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:41 am
Subject: Re: [Homestead] vote for Obama or you are a racist



Gotta test you here Ray; You are 50% home; you wrote: "The one 
requirement
I would have is that he loved her".  What if its not "he", but, is
instead, "she" ?  This is where open-mindedness, and love, and family 
 gets
tricky.  You need not reply.  bobf




----- Original Message ----
From: "rayzentz AT aim.com" <rayzentz AT aim.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:04:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] vote for Obama or you are a racist


differs from my own.

I would have no problem with my daughter getting married to someone
whose skin color differed from hers (and mine).  The one requirement I
would have is that he loved her, and would treat her well.  I would
have the same requirement for ANY potential beau.



Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob <becida AT comcast.net>


<snip>
With all the Republicans have done and are still
doing (the $85b bailout, how much have the
Republicans spent on 'welfare' in the last two
terms? Talk about corporate welfare!) why are
some so against the Democratic candidate?


<snip>


Rob
becida AT comcast.net

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