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Well, I believe that to be truly successful with a machine, you have to know 
and understand baking the old fashioned way.  If you understand that a 
certain dough texture will lead to a certain bread texture, then you are on 
your way.  I use my bread machine almost exclusively for mixing doughs now. I 
can't remember the last time I actually kneaded anything.  I use my regular 
recipes and just put them in the machine in what I call 'machine order', i.e. 
dry, wet, yeast, clumpy(raisins, nuts, etc.). I have to tweak things, of 
course, but generally the result is great.  Mine has like 10 settings, but I 
only use the dough setting.  Once it has been machine kneaded and rested and 
kneaded again if need be, I remove the dough, place it into loaf pans or 
freeform it or shape it  or braid it or whatever the case, and then bake it 
as you normally would.  I personally do not like the shape of machine 
loaves-the slices are too large and it is hard for me to
 get the crust just right to my liking.
I first learned to bake the old fashioned way, and that gives you a 'feel' 
for things, how certain breads are supposed to be.  You learn what is 
important (like temperature so you don't kill or thwart the yeast).  Then you 
learn to bake with the machine, adjusting recipes on the fly depending on 
conditions just as you would on your countertop...a bit more oil..a bit more 
egg, a bit more flax, a bit more flour, etc.  One thing that the machine does 
help with is temperature control.  On the coldest of days, it brings 
ingredients up to temp and mixes them.  It is also a warm, safe place to let 
the dough stand for that first rise.  
If you intend to use one through all cycles to make bread, just get one that 
has a shaped pan that you like.   I don't like the mixes...have never found 
one to my taste...I prefer my own recipes or adapted recipes from books.  
Besides, Don, if you buy those mixes, you lose control of what goes into the 
bread..just something to think about.

Akka B

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net>
Subject: [Homestead] Bread machines was: Masonry bake ovens
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Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:32 PM

> One of the things I have recently learned is that one can bake bread
> that is far superior to what we all eat, unless we have good access to
> a specialty bakery run by a top baker.

Speaking of which, what are people's comments on bread machines?

Don Bowen  KI6DIU
http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html


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Finally, Fay, or what is left of her, has arrived.  We're expected to get 5+ 
inches of rain in the next 36 hours.  It started raining about 30 minutes 
ago, and if this is any indication (already almost an inch), we should be in 
good shape.  We've had a few days where feeder bands would bring a sprinkle 
or a little bit of rain, maybe 1/2" at most, but watching this is like 
watching manna fall from heaven.  The drought is still upon us, but this year 
it hasn't been that devastating.  This rain is much needed, though.

Akka




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YES!
I suffer the same malady from the same plants...squashes, tomatoes, 
peaches...even beans...I sometimes forget and think I have been stung by one 
of those nasty hairy caterpillars.  MY only protection is long sleeves, if I 
can remember to wear them, but usually I am just passing by, notice that 
there's a ripe tomato, and then I pay for it.  It gets really hot wearing 
long sleeves for any length of time though.  The only thing I can compare it 
to is fiberglass-it's itchy like fiberglass, kinda burning, etc.  I usually 
have to come in and wash up right away, which is a pain as sometimes it is 
really inconvenient to have to stop, come in and either take a shower or wash 
my arms up to my shoulders.  Cold water, not hot.  But yeah, I can relate...

Akka B

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Lisa K.V. Perry <lisakvperry AT gmail.com> wrote:
From: Lisa K.V. Perry <lisakvperry AT gmail.com>
Subject: [Homestead] hives-type reaction
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Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:59 PM

Hey gang,

This seems to be the season for hives, as some of us have them this summer.

This is the third time in a couple weeks that I'm experiencing an itching
rash after gardening. I tend to take my gloves often, particularly when
picking vegetables or fruit. I don't like gardening gloves but wear them as
needed.

I picked zucchini last week and probably touched a couple of the leaves
which had little spikes on them. Not two minutes later, I developed this
hive-like reaction up and down the arm and hand. Itched like hell. I washed
with Burt's Bees Poison Ivy soap and whatever it was subsided over the next
30 minutes until gone.

Then had a similar reaction after picking tomatoes, but not nearly as bad.

This afternoon, while picking peaches, I made the mistake of rubbing my neck
after I'd picked a bunch (gloves off). Sure enough, there came the hives.
Rushed in and washed my whole neck with the soap again. My neck is bright
red and still itches but I can tell that whatever the reaction is, it's
already subsiding.

Need to go pick tomatoes again and I'll keep the gloves on. It's habit
to
take them off and shove them in my pocket.

Has anyone experienced something like this? Is this new, funky semi-allergy
I'm developing just the side benefit of being another year older?

Thanks.

Lisa
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Hi Lisa,
It stinks, doesn't it?  I am also one of these break-out-from-everything
people.  Raspberries are my big bane.  If I get prickled, I react just like
poison ivy only it doesn't spread, but it itches worse, takes longer to go
away and leaves little round scars that take months to fade.  If I eat
something with raspberries in it, my lips, tongue, throat and eyes swell up.
My big salvation are anti-histamines.  As soon as I notice a reaction to
something starting, I pop a anti-histamine and it kills it in it's tracks.
Usually only one is enough to do the trick.  For really big reactions, I
keep a stash of hydroxyzine hcl.  Very expensive. Prescription only (it's an
addictive narcotic).   It's about 20$ and ounce, but I only need about half
a teaspoon at a time.  It really knocks me on my ass.  And it works far past
it's expiration date. <g>  I only use this when I feel my eyes and throat
swelling up badly.  Works for my bee sting reactions too (yippee), and much
cheaper than a trip to the ER.  However, for the run of the mill hives and
swelling, just plain cheapo generic over-the-counter anti-histamines do the
trick.  Good luck.

Wendy


> Hey gang,
>
> This seems to be the season for hives, as some of us have them this
> summer.
>
> This is the third time in a couple weeks that I'm experiencing an itching
> rash after gardening. I tend to take my gloves often, particularly when
> picking vegetables or fruit. I don't like gardening gloves but wear them
> as
> needed.
>
> I picked zucchini last week and probably touched a couple of the leaves
> which had little spikes on them. Not two minutes later, I developed this
> hive-like reaction up and down the arm and hand. Itched like hell. I
> washed
> with Burt's Bees Poison Ivy soap and whatever it was subsided over the
> next
> 30 minutes until gone.
>
> Then had a similar reaction after picking tomatoes, but not nearly as bad.
>
> This afternoon, while picking peaches, I made the mistake of rubbing my
> neck
> after I'd picked a bunch (gloves off). Sure enough, there came the hives.
> Rushed in and washed my whole neck with the soap again. My neck is bright
> red and still itches but I can tell that whatever the reaction is, it's
> already subsiding.
>
> Need to go pick tomatoes again and I'll keep the gloves on. It's habit to
> take them off and shove them in my pocket.
>
> Has anyone experienced something like this? Is this new, funky
> semi-allergy
> I'm developing just the side benefit of being another year older?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lisa
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