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In a message dated 6/19/2008 5:10:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
paxamicus AT earthlink.net writes:

There  are only two people to choose from. Give me more options and I'd  
be  happy to discuss them. This is what we have to work with.

It's  disgusting and revolting that our administration would even   
countenance a discussion about what *kinds* of torture are  ok.
The problem is not that they would have that discussion as the UN had that  
discussion as did France, Germany, England, and pretty much every member 
nation 
 of the UN. We each have to define this before we can move on. Prisoners at 
Gitmo  said that cells painted pink is torture, Feeding prisoners non native 
food has  been called torture. Giving one group of prisoners asian sleeping 
mats 
rather  than mattresses could be called torture, while asian prisoners would 
feel  right at home. You have to have the discussion and define this.



Get it. People are being tortured RIGHT NOW in our names.  Electing  
McCain won't change that. Electing Obama  *might*.
I have no reason to believe that Obama would fix this problem. His history  
leads me to believe he
couches his statements based on his audience. He voted for the war, but  
forgot after all. McCain 
may or may not be better, we have no definite good choice on this  issue.



Let's see....someone who says it's ok, and someone who says  it's not.  
Hm....choices, choices.
 
We gave control of congress and senate to the Dems 2 elections ago, and  
increased their standing in the last election. I personally don't like having 
 one 
party in charge of all 3. Is there any reason to believe giving them the  
white house will make them more likely to look out for we the little guys 
than  
they are now?? I am still waiting on all the stuff Pelosi promised us 4 years 
 
ago. In Bush, we have a fiscal liberal, growing govt and spend, spend, spend. 
 
What will Obama really bring us?? All his proposals so far will cost a small  
fortune and the tiny increases he has proposed for the top 1 percent of 
earners  won't scratch the surface of the bill. Will we have an even bigger 
debt, 
or a  Monday morning surprise for the "middle class" with a big fat tax 
increase? I  just have to say I am worried.
 
Drew






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