homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Homestead mailing list
List archive
- From: Bill Jones <billj AT harborside.com>
- To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts
- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:37:22 -0700
SISU! wrote:
Bill Jones wrote:Well, no. In general, trees that sprout from a seed in situ are probably stronger and healthier than all others. Bust most people find that impractical, even if they did fruit.
I don't know about chestnuts, but in general it sure does. That's
why I was crowing when my little English walnut seedling had 8 whole
nuts this year. I guess that's the reason for doing grafting (for
trees whose cuttings won't sprout directly), so that the top part is
genetically identical to a known cultivar that bears lots of nuts.
If your original tree was not a graft (or cutting -- harder to tell),
then chances are that the new seedlings will perform similarly well.
It was not a graft.
Lemme make sure I understand...you are saying that cuttings would make
better nut trees than the seeds, but that it is more difficult to get
them started? I'm not talking about grafting, just rooting the cuttings.
Bev
I guess you said that chestnut cuttings grow fine. Some species of plants cannot be started easily from cuttings, so grafting is a preferred way to obtain a clone of the original, but that's not the only reason. They tell me black walnut roots are more resistant to root rot, etc.
See, having lots of fruit or seeds is a trait that is not necessarily passed from tree to seed. So a walnut tree might bear well, but its seedling children, of an entirely new genetic make-up, may not. However, I think I did read once that of all trees, chestnut seedlings are among the most invariant, and almost always fruit. How else could farmers in Corsica use the wild chestnuts as a reliable food source, since they all sprouted from seed, no doubt?
But you sure can't count on any old filbert to bear. Some cultivars are just pollinators, and don't bear anything, but you still need one or two.
Anyway, the cuttings will fruit exactly like the "parent" tree (since they're clones), if they take, and will probably do it much faster than a seedling, but their root systems tend to be poorer than those of seedlings.
One year they were selling rooted cuttings as tomato plants at the local feed store, unbeknownst to us. These plants developed blight almost immediately and were the worst tomatoes I ever had.
Bill
S. Oregon coast
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts
, (continued)
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Bill Jones, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
SISU!, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Lynda, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
SISU!, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Marie McHarry, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
SISU!, 10/13/2006
- Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts, Marie McHarry, 10/13/2006
- Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts, Lynda, 10/14/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
SISU!, 10/13/2006
- Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts, VAN DELL JORDAN, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Marie McHarry, 10/13/2006
- Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts, Lynda, 10/14/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
SISU!, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Lynda, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Bill Jones, 10/13/2006
- Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts, SISU!, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
SISU!, 10/13/2006
-
Re: [Homestead] American Chestnuts,
Bill Jones, 10/13/2006
Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.