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- From: Bill Jones <billj AT harborside.com>
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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] metal homes
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:28:16 -0800
Just yesterday I was out looking at the new solarium for animals (guinea pigs, iguanas?) that's part of my new shed, and I pretty much concluded the same thing while standing there, so the timing is amusing. Every morning the guinea pig cage tarps are coated with condensation (at this point it functions as part of the desperation heating system, like condensation in an igloo). But we're stuck with the wood frame, with roof but no walls yet (I really shouldn't hug treated wood too much, probably). Some folks are solving the problem by using a steel frame around here.
So as you say, the interior space must be sealed from the space between the walls, and between the roof and ceiling. But isn't that what makes for a comfy house anyway? Fortunately I only have to do it for one room, since the storage room will be well-ventilated.
I decided to add a few other features. Since a solarium is likely to be very warm in sunny weather, I'm *inclined* to have the interior ceiling slope upward to adjustable screened vents near the tallest point of the roof. Each of the two vents would lead into a short conduit that would allow humid air to leave the solarium without mixing with the air in the wall space. It goes without saying that the space between the roof and ceiling must have outward vents of its own (if it can't be perfectly sealed). It appears that if our sloping ceiling is to be flush against the rafters, then each rectangular _section_ of that air space must have at least one vent hole, I would think (unless each section were somehow completely sealed on six sides, which is unlikely). Then the paradox is, the more ventilation there is to the roof space, the less insulation that the intervening air space will provide, because the air temperature in that space will approach that of the outside air. Maybe in humid Eastern climes it would be better to completely seal the air spaces, but we can't easily do that, because our roof was already laid without any sealing strips. Fortunately our winter's never too bitter, and when it is, it's bone dry; and the summer is entirely dry. And during the rainiest times, the temperature is warm enough to leave the vents wide open all the time.
I can thing of some more fancy but cheap solutions. What about a long fiberglass wick at the low ends of the roof that runs along and dangles down into an eave-protected space that's open to the breeze? If I'd thought to do so, it would have been easy to at least give my purlins a coating of used motor oil or old deep-fryer grease to seal them, or try some of the less toxic wood preservation methods we've discussed.
But I still don't see what's to be so discouraged about, not having to hire a bozo to put on a new roof every few years.
Bill
S. Oregon coast
When warm, moist interior air hits cold metal, the moisture condenses out of the air and clings to and runs down on the metal. Any untreated wood--like purlins--that is continually wetted will rot, and informed people do not want treated wood inside their homes. Any insulation such as fiberglass becomes soaked and looses its insulation quality. One solution is to leave a dead-air space next to the metal and to have adequate insulation and interior air-tight barrier to keep the warm, moist air inside the structure and away from the metal.
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Dick Fischbeck, 11/08/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Don Bowen, 11/08/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Gene GeRue, 11/08/2005
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- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Dick Fischbeck, 11/09/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Dick Fischbeck, 11/09/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Don Bowen, 11/09/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Gene GeRue, 11/09/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Don Bowen, 11/09/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Bill Jones, 11/10/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Warren F. Smith, 11/10/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Bill Jones, 11/10/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Gene GeRue, 11/10/2005
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- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Gene GeRue, 11/11/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Warren F. Smith, 11/10/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Bill Jones, 11/10/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, clhw, 11/10/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Dick Fischbeck, 11/10/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Gene GeRue, 11/10/2005
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Re: [Homestead] metal homes,
Clansgian, 11/10/2005
- Re: [Homestead] metal homes, Gene GeRue, 11/10/2005
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