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  • From: "Melody O." <melody AT crecon.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Not in NeverNever Land
  • Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:33:32 -0700

At 09:11 PM 1/30/05 -0600, you wrote:
>Rob wrote (on the subject of freeloading by people who don't pay taxes):
><<This is not to say that tax dollars are not wasted, that pockets are not
>lined but there is a common benefit that comes out of the tax money.
>Taxes are part of life, even a small (a very small) study of history shows
>that.>>
>
>Marie wrote: After I read Melody's post, I was about to respond right off,
but (for once)
>I had the good sense to check to see if anyone else had.

>
>Melody wrote:
>
><<If I want to eat, who should pay for my food? You? Others in my
>community,
>state, or nation? No. It should be *me*. >>
>
>Marie wrote: If you're living in the US and buying any food at all, you're
being
>subsidized. This is particularly true if you or your children drink milk
>bought from a store (unless it's goat milk -- no subsidizing there).
>

Perhaps. But such government meddling actually increases what comes out of
our pockets rather than lessen it.

><<If I want an education, who should pay for it? Others in my community,
>state, or nation? No. It should be *me*.>>
>
>Every school in the US is subsidized (even home schoolers generally use
>materials developed by a subsidized organization). If students had to pay
>the full cost, no one would get a university education -- not even at the
>high end schools where tuition is breath taking (Harvard, University of
>Chicago, USC, etc). OTOH, subsidizing education is a pretty good deal for
>the society at large.
>

Most do. However, there are still some private institutions at this point
are unsubsidized, and many, many homeschoolers that will not take a dime
from the government. Those schools are the ones that are still free to
teach the curriculum of their choosing, while others are forced to use
watered down materials.

In the 1800's a student could get through more vital information in a
shorter time than we do now, and they were better educated as they
graduated from the 8th grade than most 12th graders are today.

Simply because we are throwing a lot of money at the system doesn't mean
that the money is making it to the classrooms. When you pay the salary of
all of those in high up places, starting with the U.S. Department of
Education down to the District Superintendent, a lot of money gets lost
along the way.

>As for taxes being immoral and generally nasty: we in the US live in a
>democratic republic. The king isn't taxing us. We've elected representatives
>who do our bidding. Of course, if we aren't active in deciding who gets
>elected, what these reps do may not be to our liking. The colonists were
>willing to sacrifice their lives and sacred honor because they rejected
>taxation with representation. They didn't reject taxation per se.
>
>Marie

Hundreds of laws are sent past law-makers, and even Congressmen will tell
you that they are only able to truly study a few. Many bills get past
without the majority of our Representatives even knowing what the full
extent of the law entails. My point is, what kind of representation is
that?

The law-makers in Congress get paid more money than most of us will for
simply showing up. Yet how many people do you personally know who looks at
how a person votes before they elect him/her? Or do they simply punch
their ballet for the Republican or Democrat, no matter who is running?

As for telling your Congressman what you think and having it do any good,
how long ago was that? I contacted my Congressman a couple of months ago
and he wrote back a letter saying that he agreed with the bill and was
going to pass it anyway, even though there were many in my state who
opposed it.

The best we can do at this point is elect a representative who we believe
will represent our views, then hope that he/she will do what they said they
would when they campaigned for our vote.

And as for the colonists, they were willing to risk their lives and sacred
honor to battle tyranny. Excessive taxation is only one of the maladies of
tyranny.

Best wishes,
Melody





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