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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

> With any luck at all it will be well over $10 trillion in less than 4 
> years.  Borrow and give to the rich, your kids do not need the money  
> Besides you will be living with them because SSI was also stolen.  Don 

So were the elections - but who gives a

Besides, there are plenty of adult kids
who have had to go 'home again' (even
though one is not supposed to be 
able to) because they can't make enough
to live on.
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> It is if you have the money to loan or your 'long term view' is to next 
> week. We seem to be a society who's 'long term view' is next week... Rob 
> becidawa

Comes from changing politicians every
few years. Royalty wasn't any better,
as history has shown. Maybe limiting
political office for shorter terms and
having only *one* pension fund for all 
employees - gov/commerce/bank/
academia would make everybody equally
worry about where their retirement is
coming from - and prevent the double-
dipping that goes on for some while
others don't get *any*.
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It's been awhile since we had this "discussion". With talk of starting a
place in VA it might be a
good time for it, there must be someone else on the list thinking about
staring out... as a plus it's not political <g>.

I I'm thinking a list is a good place to start, just something to think
about, something to look for at garage sales, auctions and the like. Even
sales at stores.

A truck is a good start, a trailer will do much of what a truck will.
A wheelbarrow.
Assorted shovels.
A pick.
Digging bars.
A splitting maul (use it for more than firewood, it's a big hammer)
A 4# hammer.
Chains (get the best you can)
A come-a-long
High lift jack
Hydraulic bottle jack (I have two 6 ton and when I need one I really need one)
Hand tools (wrenches, pliers, etc)
Hand tools (saws, hammers, brace-n-bits, -woodworking)
Tape measures (I like to find those tool sales tents and stock up on cheap
ones, I lose the expensive ones just as fast as the cheap ones so picking
up 5 cheap ones is a lot better than just one spendy one. If I can't find
one then I need another)
Level ( I have a 4' and a number of smaller ones)
Battery operated drill


Anyone else have an opinion?



Rob
becidawa AT hctc.com