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- From: "eczekalski" <eczekalski@gaias-gift.com>
- To: "'gardenwriters-on-gardening'" <gwl-g@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: RE: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense
- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:28:11 -0500
Hi Dan, IIRC means "if I recall correctly". Sorry to use it if it's not in
common use here.
I didn't mean to imply that people shouldn't consider this, especially if
they are the kind of person that really needs to try SOMETHING, but I did
think that it should be mentioned that it's not easy to use successfully.
I live almost on the line between zone 5 and 6, I consider zone 5 to be a
safe bet when choosing plants for winter hardiness.
Just curious, how many of the novices who complain about the beetles in
August and need to do SOMETHING, will actually wait until April or May of
the following spring to do it?
Esther Czekalski
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[mailto:gwl-g-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Clost
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:03 PM
To: gardenwriters-on-gardening
Subject: Re: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense
Hi Esther,
Those are some good questions. I'd like to respond from a commercial point
of view.
What zone are you in?
I'm in Cdn Zone 4b/5a depending on what map is being used.
We find that the difficulty in applying nematodes is customer knowledge. The
two main points though seem to be timing and calibration.
We take of the first by only offering the little critters when the soil
temperature is right.
We take care of the second by discussions with the customer, zeroing in on
what ever container/pump/sprinkling system they are going to use.
As to effectiveness: we have 3 points
The first is to determine that the customer has actually seen JB in the area
they wish to treat and to discuss thresholds. ( If they haven't seen the JB
or taken a quick count they would have no idea if a. it was JB, or b.was
damage being caused by JB)
The second is that they keep records so that they can determine the effects
of their treatment programme.
The third is perhaps questionable but it goes to human nature as opposed to
mother nature.
Some folks feel they have just got to do something, ill-considered or not.
And they are going to do something, whether they purchase product at our
store or at another. I would much rather sell a sponge of nematodes than a
bag of carbaryl.
Re harshness of winter and efficacy of nematodes: You can say the same thing
for any sort of intervention.
What does IIRC mean?
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "eczekalski" <>
To: "'gardenwriters-on-gardening'" <gwl-g@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense
>I thought that the nematodes were difficult to apply properly because
>(IIRC)
> they only act at certain stages of insect development and under particular
> weather conditions. Also, the adult beetles may come from anywhere, not
> just the yard that you own and can spray.
>
> Since the beetle populations have seemed to vary with the harshness of our
> winters, it's hard to tell if the nematodes have had any effect.
>
> Esther Czekalski
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gwl-g-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Doreen Howard
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:22 AM
> To: gardenwriters-on-gardening
> Subject: Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense
>
> Miranda Smith wrote:
>
>> Some formulations of beneficial nematodes include species that prey on
>> Japanese Beetle larvae. They are a better bet than milky spore in cooler
>> climates. Apply them in the spring--they will find the grubs. They do
>> not overwinter well, but they are effective enough so that a couple of
>> years of applying them usually does the trick.
>
> Where do you find these nematodes? Web site, catalog, garden center??
>
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense
, (continued)
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, Jacqueline Heriteau, 01/24/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Hamptongar, 01/24/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, nancy szerlag, 01/24/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Miranda Smith, 01/25/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Doreen Howard, 01/25/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, Dan Clost, 01/25/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, Miranda Smith, 01/25/2005
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RE: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
eczekalski, 01/25/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, Miranda Smith, 01/25/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense,
Dan Clost, 01/25/2005
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RE: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense,
eczekalski, 01/25/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense, Dan Clost, 01/25/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense, Miranda Smith, 01/25/2005
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RE: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense,
eczekalski, 01/25/2005
- [gwl-g] interesting press release, Miranda Smith, 01/26/2005
- RE: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, eczekalski, 01/25/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Doreen Howard, 01/25/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, AldieOaks, 01/24/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Hamptongar, 01/24/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense, Scott Vlaun, 01/25/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Hamptongar, 01/25/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Jeff Lowenfels, 01/26/2005
- Re: [gwl-g] Japanese Beetle Defense, bbmackey, 01/26/2005
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Re: [gwl-g] Jap Beetle Defense,
Jeff Lowenfels, 01/26/2005
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