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- From: JFAlward AT aol.com
- To: gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: Gospel Creation
- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:00:49 EST
In a message dated 3/15/01 3:55:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,
hhbv AT highwinds.com writes:
<< OK, so I guess these 4 represent your strongest cases. In reading
through them, I'm detecting a certain pattern to your arguments:
1. Old Testament (or extra-biblical) parallels exist... therefore
2. the author has an axe to grind... and no "independent" observer
was there to document... therefore
3. the events didn't occur... and the burden of proof rests with
those who think otherwise.
Have I misrepresented your methodology? >>
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I think you misunderstand what I believe. Extensive Old Testament parallels
exist which account for virtually every aspect of the gospel stories; this
strongly suggests that writers or story tellers relied heavily on the Old
Testament. The authors/tellers sincerely believed that Jesus was the son of
God and the messiah spoken of in scripture, and that events in the lives of
holy men prefigured events in the life of Jesus, so they must have occurred.
These authors used literary license and the Old Testament to embellish--or
even create--stories they were sure represented events that occurred. I
explained all this in some detail in the post to Rikk Watts.
As for the burden of proof: That depends on who's making an affirmative
statement. I've affirmed that the Old Testament has most of the material
needed to construct the four stories I mentioned. Those who disagree should
show why they don't agree. On the other hand, if others affirm that the
stories came from some other source, it's their responsibility to provide the
evidence, and my job to try to refute the evidence, if I choose.
Regards,
Joe Alward
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Gospel Creation,
JFAlward, 03/15/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Gospel Creation, Rikki E. Watts, 03/15/2001
- Gospel Creation, JFAlward, 03/15/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Rikki E. Watts, 03/15/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Hudson Barton, 03/15/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, JFAlward, 03/15/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, JFAlward, 03/15/2001
- Gospel Creation, Steve Black, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Rikki E. Watts, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Jack Kilmon, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Rikki E. Watts, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, George W. Young, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Mark Goodacre, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Jack Kilmon, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Antonio Jerez, 03/16/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, Hudson Barton, 03/17/2001
- Re: Gospel Creation, George Young, 03/18/2001
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