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  • From: Lance Andersen <lancea AT sybase.com>
  • To: TDS Development Group <freetds AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Sybase TDS Specification
  • Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:32:27 -0400


I have forwarded your concern internally within Sybase.


Regards,
Lance

Jon Pounder wrote:
>
> Yeah, I read the licence agreement and also did not download it for the
> same reasons, I agree with all the points you guys have raised.
>
> So, I am calling for someone from Sybase to explain themselves - was this
> some underhanded trick to trap the project proponents into a non-disclosure
> and non-source agreement and effectively kill the project ?
>
> These days it is almost silly to even include such clauses in something - I
> could get a hotmail account, download that spec from a public library
> somewhere, and no one could ever tie that download back to me or the
> freetds project, and that would effectively bypass the agreement entirely.
>
> At 10:57 PM 9/14/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >> The license that you must accept to get the spec does not seem to be
> >> compatible with source-code distribution.
> >
> >My "take" on the license (which I read and subsequently did not download
> >the TDS spec because of the NDA and such -- I don't like NDA's hanging
> >over me <grin>) is that it was probably designed to prevent Sybase's
> >competitors from benefitting from the TDS spec release. But, I'm not
> >a lawyer so I don't know either. My hope, though, is that there will
> >be a way for Sybase to release the spec such that it can be used by
> >FreeTDS freely and still be very positive for Sybase with regard to
> >its business model.
> >
> >I was originally under the impression from earlier postings from Sybase
> >that 1) the spec would be made available early on under an NDA until
> >the license kinks could get worked out, and then 2) later on for
> >"public release". So, is this the "early release" or the intended
> >final "public release"?
> >
> >Here's the snippet that gave me that impression:
> >
> > "We can provide you (FreeTDS) with an early version of the TDS spec, if
> > you (Brian?) are willing to sign a non-disclosure agreement. While it
> > is written in intimidating legalese, the essence of it is to ask you
> > to keep the information to yourself until a public announcement can
> > be made."
> >
> >I'm not a programmer on this project, but have tested the JDBC driver
> >and am curiously watching :)
> >
> >Greg.
> >
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