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- From: joel gagnon <joelpgagnon AT hotmail.com>
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- Subject: RE: permaculture of the ditch
- Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:21:41 -0400
What direction does the slope face? Even if it has no overhead shade, the direction it faces will make a considerable difference in what plants would be happy there. Joel Gagnon > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:47:17 -0400 > From: simonstl AT simonstl.com > To: fingerlakespermaculture AT lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: permaculture of the ditch > > I'm wondering if there are visible and perhaps useful things we can do > with the edges of property most exposed to the public. This list is > usually a little more meta than that, but I wonder... > > In a hot year when we planned to do very little gardening (we had a > newborn and have a two-year-old), I've found myself doing lots of work > between 6:00 and 8:00am. Even more to my surprise, I've been doing a > lot of that work near the road in front of my house, Route 366. > > I have a short hill (10'?) sloping down to a ditch before the road. The > state DOT mows from the road into the ditch once or twice a year, and > that area also gets lots of salt and salt spray in winter. Occasionally > the state scrapes out the ditch, though they've skipped my stretch for a > while. There's also the unfortunate regular appearance of pollutants, > from oil and gasoline to antifreeze and litter - even occasionally > concrete if a truck has to stop there for some reason. > > Josh Dolan and I refrained from planting food crops on the hillside, > though some elderberries have appeared and I'm content to leave them > there. I'm mostly doing decorative shade garden work (and poison ivy > removal) on the hill, though the Edible Forest Garden has been a helpful > guide even for that. > > My hard question is the side of the ditch that goes to the road. Cars > don't get much of an impression, apart from the whiskey barrel of > impatiens the Varna Community Association put there, but pedestrians > certainly see it, and I'd like to create some kind of reward for their > patience in walking that stretch. > > Are there plants more appealing and perhaps productive than goldenrods, > ragweed, teasel, and garlic mustard that currently survive in that > environment? Are there examples of work people have already done that I > could consider for inspiration? > > I'm not looking for serious design here, just a rough idea of whether > this is possible enough to be worth investing some time. I'm happy to > experiment, and share the results. > > Thanks, > -- > Simon St.Laurent > http://simonstl.com/ > _______________________________________________ > FingerLakesPermaculture mailing list > FingerLakesPermaculture AT lists.ibiblio.org > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/fingerlakespermaculture > Visit http://FLXpermaculture.Net to manage your subscription. |
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permaculture of the ditch,
Simon St.Laurent, 08/10/2010
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RE: permaculture of the ditch,
joel gagnon, 08/11/2010
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Re: permaculture of the ditch,
Simon St.Laurent, 08/11/2010
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RE: permaculture of the ditch,
Green Singer, 08/11/2010
- Re: permaculture of the ditch, Simon St.Laurent, 08/11/2010
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RE: permaculture of the ditch,
joel gagnon, 08/12/2010
- Re: permaculture of the ditch, Christine Karatnytsky, 08/12/2010
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RE: permaculture of the ditch,
Green Singer, 08/11/2010
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Re: permaculture of the ditch,
Simon St.Laurent, 08/11/2010
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Re: permaculture of the ditch,
Christopher Healy, 08/11/2010
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Re: permaculture of the ditch,
Simon St.Laurent, 08/12/2010
- RE: permaculture of the ditch, joel gagnon, 08/12/2010
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Re: permaculture of the ditch,
Simon St.Laurent, 08/12/2010
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Re: permaculture of the ditch,
Stephanie Colombo, 08/11/2010
- Re: permaculture of the ditch, Simon St.Laurent, 08/12/2010
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RE: permaculture of the ditch,
joel gagnon, 08/11/2010
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