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- From: Ross Grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
- To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: No Hard Feelings
- Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:49:32 -0400
Yep. In more formalized investment environments, the folks who invest
upfront expect to get an additional return above and beyond what the random
shmoes who come along later will get. Kickstarter actually has a blog post
somewhere aimed at potential project starters which touches on this, but
it's clearly not required reading, inasmuch as way too many Kickstarter
projects seem to either go the full-charity route, or at the very least seem
to place a value on intangibles that's probably way too high in the context
of the local-music economy.
I especially like the ones where, say, small-time local bands who'd be lucky
to draw 30 people at the Cave put something like "personal concert at your
house!" way up at the top of the prize list.
I guess I should write a New Yorker Shouts & Murmurs piece wherein the
premium for a $3.00 donation is "I will make and serve you a cup of coffee"
and for $25 "I will personally take your order and deliver food and
beverages of your choice* to your table. (*standard menu items only,
please)"
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:41 AM, James Hepler <hepstyle AT gmail.com> wrote:
> I just have a philosophical question about this kind of kickstarter
> campaign. I've thought about trying to do one for some stuff, but here's
> my
> obstacle: If you are going to offer a "free" cd for a $25 donation, are
> you
> going to charge the general public $25 as well? How do you overcome the
> potential insult of asking for charity and then offering an NPR style deal
> where you end up charging the people kind enough to donate, arguably your
> biggest fans, more for a product than you plan to charge people who didn't
> donate? I see the liner note thing, but is that really added value? It
> doesn't cost you anything, nor is it more work to add a name to a liner
> note
> or put a name in a song. And if someone gives $20 they get nothing
> tangible
> in return? Someone who gives you $20 at the merch table gets what, two
> cd's? A CD and a shirt?
>
> I guess this is at the heart of my problem. All bands are "listener
> supported", but I see bands as straight up businesses. I won't go to parker
> and otis because they charge 8 bucks for an egg salad sandwich!
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Mump <gilbertgeorgeneal AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello. I'm trying to fund my 4th CD through Kickstarter.com. I set a
> > goal, if i make it the donations go to my project. if not, not. I
> > would appreciate any help. You can donate as little as $1 but every
> > bit helps. Thanks.
> >
> > Here's the link to my project. Thanks everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1693912192/no-hard-feelings-my-fourth-album
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No Hard Feelings,
Mump, 09/13/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
James Hepler, 09/15/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Ross Grady, 09/15/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Joseph Churpek, 09/15/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
James Hepler, 09/16/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Joseph Churpek, 09/16/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
scotty sandwich, 09/16/2011
- Re: No Hard Feelings, Adam Lindstaedt, 09/16/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Mump, 09/20/2011
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- Re: No Hard Feelings, James Hepler, 09/20/2011
- Re: No Hard Feelings, Dave Yarwood, 09/20/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
scotty sandwich, 09/16/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Joseph Churpek, 09/16/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
James Hepler, 09/16/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Joseph Churpek, 09/15/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Ross Grady, 09/15/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
James Hepler, 09/15/2011
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Re: No Hard Feelings,
Mump, 09/20/2011
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