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  • From: Will Hackney <willhack15 AT gmail.com>
  • To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: sharing the space
  • Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:48:24 -0800 (PST)

I used to try to contact people who covered our posters, but after a
lot of non response and unhelpful attitudes I changed my policy to: if
I see a flyer that is covering my poster or a flyer for an event that
hasn't happened yet, I rip it down. I wish there was another way,
because I don't want it to escalate, but I spend a lot of time making
those multiple color screen printed posters, and I get up real early
to put em on the kiosks, so I feel like I can do that. I usually reuse
the flyers I rip down...RECYCLE!


On Dec 10, 10:24=A0am, hepst... AT gmail.com (James Hepler) wrote:
> Torches and pitchforks and boxes of poo.
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Bryon Settle <ploynt... AT embarqmail.com>w=
rote:
>
>
>
> > If they won't respond to a civil request then what happens next? =A0Do =
we
> > start a campaign to rip all of their posters down and throw them in the
> > street? Maybe The Poster Guys could mark their posters so we don't take
> > their posters down. Maybe a campaign to let local advertisers know that
> > this company's efforts will no longer be tolerated.
>
> > -bryon
>
> > clarqol... AT gmail.com wrote:
> > > =A0 =A0If you're reading this you probably have enough experience and=
good
> > > sense to follow basic rules of etiquette and protocol when it comes t=
o
> > > the way you post flyers and posters for events - don't post over
> > > things that haven't happened yet, don't post too many in on one kiosk=
,
> > > pole, etc., don't put huge posters in spots where they will monopoliz=
e
> > > the space available, etc. =A0 =A0 Most of the folks involved in the m=
usic
> > > community in this area are very courteous and have been that way as
> > > long as I've lived here, but lately there have been groups in the
> > > wider community coming along and flyering with no regard for anyone
> > > else's stuff. =A0 =A0It's bad enough lately that when there is a phon=
e
> > > number I've been calling these people and politely telling them they
> > > are out of line and that this brings on a lot of ill will from the
> > > music and art community at large, which it certainly does.
> > > =A0 =A0 I've found that a lot of the time it is a result of one of a
> > > couple things. =A0 The first is the band or group with upcoming event
> > > that gives flyers to a bunch of their friends to put up and they are
> > > excited and they get overzealous and go nuts with the staple gun.
> > > This is understandable and doesn't happen very often and when it does
> > > the band or group is usually bummed that their friends are postering
> > > over other peoples stuff and it is easily remedied. =A0 =A0The second=
is
> > > the group that pays a company or uses interns or volunteers to post
> > > the flyers (obviously I'm not talking about the famous "The Poster
> > > Guys" here, they're awesome). =A0 =A0A lot of the time they just want=
to
> > > get it done as fast as possible so you'll find these flyers posted
> > > smack dab in the middle of a kiosk over top of whatever is there.
> > > These folks will often overdo it with the number on a kiosk as well,
> > > so you'll sometimes see eight or ten huge highlighter-pen-yellow
> > > posters for "Jobs to Save the Environment" on one kiosk side. =A0 By
> > > far, the people that do "Save the Environment" and did "Help Elect
> > > Obama" and sometimes "Jobs for Justice" are the worst. =A0 =A0 I don'=
t
> > > think the companies who hire them live in town, they must not have an=
y
> > > idea how horrible those people are. =A0 =A0I have to think Mr.Obama o=
r
> > > Move.On.org would be upset if they knew this was going on. =A0 =A0The=
y're
> > > a pollution of the visual environment most everywhere you go in Chape=
l
> > > Hill and Carrboro. =A0 =A0I actually went in person to their office a=
bove
> > > CD Alley to try to talk sense to them and they were total assholes,
> > > completely dismissive. =A0 =A0 They told me they've found they make t=
he
> > > most money fundraising by putting up the posters in exactly the manne=
r
> > > they do it, and they made it clear they would not consider posting
> > > them in a way that was considerate of others and shared the space.
> > > The lady actually snickered at me, like she got off on the idea that
> > > they would continue to dominate the public space, tough shit
> > > kid!
> > > I'm obviously fired up about this. =A0 I'm usually a pretty easy goin=
g
> > > guy, but this really gets my goat. =A0 =A0When I was downtown today a=
nd
> > > saw the nice silkscreened poster for the Trekky Records MS benefit
> > > covered over by some dumb shit posted in a careless way it just set m=
e
> > > off. =A0 =A0I'd love to hear any ideas you might have.
> > > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> > >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
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