RTP-area local music and culture

[Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com>]

Always down for the IWTDI, but I don't even have $25 in my account. 

> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:58:19 -0400
> From: hepstyle AT gmail.com
> To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: Finding good music in Chapel Hill
> 
> As far as I know there is a guest list.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Does this mean no guest list?
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:35:51 -0400
> > > From: hepstyle AT gmail.com
> > > To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: Re: Finding good music in Chapel Hill
> > >
> >  > Damn dude, we're not playing with Galaxie 500.  Think before you speak!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chapel Hill
> > > > Shredder/Guitarist,
> > > > You make some points I agree with (but have
> > > > heard for years). As you point out-there's a percentage of people in
> > the
> > > > Chapel Hill diaspora (they exist in every scene), who add
> > > > very little and feel entitled to a lot. They're here, but what can you
> > do?
> > > > If
> > > > it's a band, they usually don't last. If it's a clique of people, they
> > > > usually
> > > > go through the revolving door eventually-off to a new city where no 
> > > > one
> > > > will miss them when
> > > > they leave. Who knows where their attitude comes from? Maybe it comes
> > from
> > > > Chapel Hill's recognition in the independent music scene.
> > > > That's odd; because I don't think my age group (25-32) had anything to
> > do
> > > > with
> > > > that. The older people I meet who made it happen are the nicest, least
> > > > pretentious people of all. I guess all their success went to my
> > > > generation's
> > > > head. Those people could care less about this listserv.  They are not
> > > > missed.
> > > >
> > > >  I say if you can recognize that there's more positive aspects to the
> > > > people in the local scene, you're giving respect that enables healthy
> > > > dialogue, debate, and disagreements. Many of the members here do just
> > that.
> > > > It's
> > > > part of the reason some really good discussions have taken place
> > recently.
> > > > We
> > > > respect each other's knowledge, experience, humor, insight, and 
> > > > effort.
> > I
> > > > think
> > > > it would do you some good to change monikers (even for a 3rd time),
> > > > come back, and just listen for awhile, get to know what people think 
> > > > by
> > > > reading
> > > > what they say. Maybe you'll understand why your comments have ruffled
> > the
> > > > feathers of some. Perhaps you'll recognize how little your thoughts
> > have
> > > > contributed
> > > > because of how ill-informed and negative they've been. You have a
> > tendency
> > > > to make
> > > > broad generalizations about people here, you shit on people's work, 
> > > > and
> > you
> > > > accuse everyone of wronging you when you should thank them for
> > tolerating
> > > > you. Worst
> > > > of all, your gripes are unoriginal. I hear them all the time. That
> > said,
> > > > I've
> > > > gone to bat for you, given you the benefit of the doubt, and told
> > others to
> > > > go
> > > > easy. I still think your intentions are, at the core, good. That's why
> > you
> > > > should stick around. You're not as different as you think. We all fuck
> > up
> > > > here-sadly,
> > > > I am rather awesome at it. Fortunately though, some stereotypes are
> > good-
> > > > people
> > > > are more forgiving here. Even if you play a show with a $25 admission
> > > > price,
> > > > even if that show features the same people you saw play in October 
> > > > 2001
> > in
> > > > DC
> > > > for $4, even if it's obvious the $25 fee is because of the
> > headliner-whose
> > > > music has paved the way for the great sissification of indie rock, who
> > > > should
> > > > be opening for the local band… Forgive me. I forgive you. Take some
> > time to
> > > > learn about the people on this listserv, go to some shows and meet
> > people.
> > > > You may have a better understanding of how small the clique of
> > dumbshits
> > > > really are-in number and influence. Try and let go of whatever makes
> > you
> > > > feel so victimized. No one ends up here because they're cool.
> > > >
> > > >
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