RTP-area local music and culture

[Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com>]

"More awesome."

> From: dvmurrell AT nc.rr.com
> To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: Finding good music in Chapel Hill
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:57:45 -0400
> CC: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> Wait, what do you mean by "older"?
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> On Aug 8, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Chapel Hill
> > Shredder/Guitarist,
> > You make some points I agree with (but have
> > heard for years). As you point out-there’s a percentage of people in 
> >  the Chapel Hill diaspora (they exist in every scene), who add
> > very little and feel entitled to a lot. They’re here, but what can y 
> > ou do? If
> > it’s a band, they usually don’t last. If it’s a clique of  
> > people, they usually
> > go through the revolving door eventually-off to a new city where no  
> > one will miss them when
> > they leave. Who knows where their attitude comes from? Maybe it  
> > comes from Chapel Hill’s recognition in the independent music scene.
> > That’s odd; because I don’t think my age group (25-32) had  
> > anything to do with
> > that. The older people I meet who made it happen are the nicest, least
> > pretentious people of all. I guess all their success went to my  
> > generation’s
> > head. Those people could care less about this listserv.  They are  
> > not missed.
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> > I say if you can recognize that there's more positive aspects to the  
> > people in the local scene, you’re giving respect that enables healt 
> > hy
> > dialogue, debate, and disagreements. Many of the members here do  
> > just that. It’s
> > part of the reason some really good discussions have taken place  
> > recently. We
> > respect each other’s knowledge, experience, humor, insight, and effo 
> > rt. I think
> > it would do you some good to change monikers (even for a 3rd time),
> > come back, and just listen for awhile, get to know what people think  
> > by reading
> > what they say. Maybe you’ll understand why your comments have ruffle 
> > d the
> > feathers of some. Perhaps you’ll recognize how little your thoughts  
> > have contributed
> > because of how ill-informed and negative they've been. You have a  
> > tendency to make
> > broad generalizations about people here, you shit on people’s work,  
> > and you
> > accuse everyone of wronging you when you should thank them for  
> > tolerating you. Worst
> > of all, your gripes are unoriginal. I hear them all the time. That  
> > said, I’ve
> > gone to bat for you, given you the benefit of the doubt, and told  
> > others to go
> > easy. I still think your intentions are, at the core, good. That’s w 
> > hy you
> > should stick around. You’re not as different as you think. We all fu 
> > ck up here-sadly,
> > I am rather awesome at it. Fortunately though, some stereotypes are  
> > good- people
> > are more forgiving here. Even if you play a show with a $25  
> > admission price,
> > even if that show features the same people you saw play in October  
> > 2001 in DC
> > for $4, even if it’s obvious the $25 fee is because of the headliner 
> > -whose
> > music has paved the way for the great sissification of indie rock,  
> > who should
> > be opening for the local band… Forgive me. I forgive you. Take some  
> > time to learn about the people on this listserv, go to some shows an 
> > d meet people. You may have a better understanding of how small the  
> > clique of dumbshits really are-in number and influence. Try and let  
> > go of whatever makes you feel so victimized. No one ends up here bec 
> > ause they're cool.
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