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  • From: Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com>
  • To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: Finding good music in Chapel Hill
  • Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:54:35 -0400


Does this mean no guest list?

> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:35:51 -0400
> From: hepstyle AT gmail.com
> To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: Finding good music in Chapel Hill
>
> Damn dude, we're not playing with Galaxie 500. Think before you speak!
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> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Joel Peck <joelpeck88 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Chapel Hill
> > Shredder/Guitarist,
> > You make some points I agree with (but have
> > heard for years). As you point out-there's a percentage of people in the
> > Chapel Hill diaspora (they exist in every scene), who add
> > very little and feel entitled to a lot. They're here, but what can you do?
> > If
> > it's a band, they usually don't last. If it's a clique of people, they
> > usually
> > go through the revolving door eventually-off to a new city where no one
> > will miss them when
> > they leave. Who knows where their attitude comes from? Maybe it comes from
> > Chapel Hill's recognition in the independent music scene.
> > That's odd; because I don't think my age group (25-32) had anything to do
> > with
> > that. The older people I meet who made it happen are the nicest, least
> > pretentious people of all. I guess all their success went to my
> > generation's
> > head. Those people could care less about this listserv. They are not
> > missed.
> >
> > I say if you can recognize that there's more positive aspects to the
> > people in the local scene, you're giving respect that enables healthy
> > dialogue, debate, and disagreements. Many of the members here do just
> > that.
> > It's
> > part of the reason some really good discussions have taken place recently.
> > We
> > respect each other's knowledge, experience, humor, insight, and effort. I
> > think
> > it would do you some good to change monikers (even for a 3rd time),
> > come back, and just listen for awhile, get to know what people think by
> > reading
> > what they say. Maybe you'll understand why your comments have ruffled the
> > feathers of some. Perhaps you'll recognize how little your thoughts have
> > contributed
> > because of how ill-informed and negative they've been. You have a tendency
> > to make
> > broad generalizations about people here, you shit on people's work, and
> > you
> > accuse everyone of wronging you when you should thank them for tolerating
> > you. Worst
> > of all, your gripes are unoriginal. I hear them all the time. That said,
> > I've
> > gone to bat for you, given you the benefit of the doubt, and told others
> > to
> > go
> > easy. I still think your intentions are, at the core, good. That's why you
> > should stick around. You're not as different as you think. We all fuck up
> > here-sadly,
> > I am rather awesome at it. Fortunately though, some stereotypes are good-
> > people
> > are more forgiving here. Even if you play a show with a $25 admission
> > price,
> > even if that show features the same people you saw play in October 2001 in
> > DC
> > for $4, even if it's obvious the $25 fee is because of the headliner-whose
> > music has paved the way for the great sissification of indie rock, who
> > should
> > be opening for the local band… Forgive me. I forgive you. Take some time
> > to
> > learn about the people on this listserv, go to some shows and meet people.
> > You may have a better understanding of how small the clique of dumbshits
> > really are-in number and influence. Try and let go of whatever makes you
> > feel so victimized. No one ends up here because they're cool.
> >
> >
> >
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