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Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled
- From: Mel <melissa.thomas AT gmail.com>
- To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled
- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:43:42 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 17, 12:19 pm, ploynt... AT embarqmail.com (Bryon Settle) wrote:
> Hear, hear!
>
>
>
> James Hepler wrote:
> > I personally don't think that this is the major moral outrage that some
> > folks are claiming it to be. It's more likely a flukey lack of
> > communication. The band booking people probably didn't know that they
> > weren't supposed to book a band when the NBA finals are on, and the people
> > who run the bar probably didn't know that a band was booked during game 6.
>
> > I don't give a rats ass about the NBA. But I understand that a bar
> > wanting
> > to make money is not as much greed as it is, idunno, making a living. It
> > should be well known by now that places like Dain's do not survive by
> > putting on rock shows. They want a piece of the rock pie for sure, but
> > ask
> > anyone who runs a bar and they'll tell you that a marquee sporting event
> > will always bring more people than a local rock show.
>
> > Principles are great when you're not staring down a stack of bills. And I
> > defy anyone to tell me that they will turn down seeing a great rock show
> > at
> > Dain's sometimes down the road because of that one time they canceled a
> > show
> > for a basketball game.
>
> > As an afterthought, shit, one band could play first half commercians and
> > halftime, one band could play second half commercials, and one band could
> > play postgame. Commercial breaks tend to be song length, and there are
> > enough of them to play a set no problem.
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Kevin Slater <saulec... AT gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Well for me, I knew it would have nothing to do with Catherine.
> >> She's not going to cancel the show and I know she booked it thinking
> >> it would happen. No stain on her character for this one.
>
> >> I also understand the perils of booking at a non-rock club, but even
> >> this goes a step beyond in my opinion. It's more of an integrity
> >> thing. If you book an event, whether it's a basketball game, rock
> >> show, or a clown orgy, you HONOR that obligation. You don't at the
> >> last minute call things off or alter the deal majorly. Starting a 3
> >> act show at 11:30 (or later with load in/setup) on a tuesday night is
> >> a pretty major alteration. Bottom line for me is that if you can't
> >> follow through with your planned event, or if you are so greedy that
> >> you are will to stick it to a band, then maybe you as an
> >> establishment shouldn't be booking events. Yes, Durham needs venues,
> >> but I'm not sure a place like this is the answer.
>
> >> Anyone got any seed money? I'll open a place and run it. I may have
> >> never done it before, but I'd try to bring some morals into the
> >> venture. Oh wait, I guess that would be an automatic failure. Maybe
> >> in the next lifetime.
>
> >> k.
>
> >> On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Anne Gomez wrote:
>
> >>> No, Catherine is not to blame and I was torn about posting anything
> >>> about
> >>> this because I didn't want to mess up her efforts to book bands.
> >>> But I had
> >>> to let y'all know, especially the people in bands. People can do
> >>> with the
> >>> information what they will.
>
> >>> On 6/17/08, grady <gr... AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> >>>> But the burgs & fries are so tasty there! I'm torn!
>
> >>>> FWIW, rock at Dain's is a kind of nutty experiment spearheaded by
> >>>> bartender/Midtown Dickens member Catherine Edgerton . . . anybody who
> >>>> has seen or played a show there knows that the "stage" area is
> >>>> entirely
> >>>> absurd.
>
> >>>> It's a great thing, and it's my fave way to see live music, but I
> >>>> suspect that there's gonna be a perennial disconnect (of variable
> >>>> size)
> >>>> between the live-music folks and Dain & the rest of the staff.
>
> >>>> So feel free to go complain to Dain, but don't take it out on Cat, I
> >>>> doubt she's the big NBA fan of the bunch . . .
>
> >>>> Kevin Slater wrote:
>
> >>>>> seriously? like for real?
>
> >>>>> Well, they just made my personal ban list.
>
> >>>>> k.
>
> >>>>> On Jun 17, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Anne Gomez wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Dear Fans of The Gates of Beauty, The Debacle (aka The Scott Waite
> >>>>>> Debacle), and Clawform (Colin Booy's metal-banjo project): If you
> >>>>>> were going to come see us play at Dain's Place tonight, you can
> >>>>>> make other plans. We will not be playing there tonight because a
> >>>>>> much more important event has displaced our show: A PROFESSIONAL
> >>>>>> BASKETBALL GAME ON TELEVISION!!!! So if you are a fan of the Lakers
> >>>>>> or whatever team they're playing tonight, by all means go to
> >>>>>> Dain's. If you like crazy, interesting music you'll have to sit at
> >>>>>> home and listen to your Albert Ayler records. Love,Anne "We
> >>>>>> Practiced Really Hard for This Show and Put Up a Buttload of
> >>>>>> Flyers" Gomez (The Gates of Beauty)
>
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Hi,
Pizza Palace (Durham) just opened up Friday nights for local bands.
June 27th The Pneurotics and Bull City will be playing at 10:00 pm.
The bands split the door, they get fed and there are drink specials
for all. No PA but still very cool.
There is a need and folks want to try to fill it. Yeah to Catherine.
Sorry the show was canceled.
My living room is open?
MT
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Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled
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- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled, Shayne, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight), The Pneurotics, 06/17/2008
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Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight),
Kevin Slater, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight), grady, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight), James Hepler, 06/17/2008
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Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight),
Bryon Settle, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight), Chris Rossi, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight), Duncan Murrell, 06/17/2008
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Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight),
Chris Rossi, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight), Kevin Slater, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled, Mel, 06/17/2008
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Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled tonight),
Chaz Martenstein, 06/17/2008
- Re: BASKETBALL - 1, ROCK MUSIC - 0 (aka Dain's show cancelled, local506, 06/17/2008
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