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- From: Neil Leyton <nleyton AT gmail.com>
- To: "David M. Berry" <d.berry AT sussex.ac.uk>
- Cc: cc-uk <cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Ian Brown <I.Brown AT cs.ucl.ac.uk>
- Subject: Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion
- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:28:13 +0100
Fran said to me off the record that he'd previously heard Lawrence
Lessig speak, and that he came across as having an agenda to destroy
all copyright. I told him that perhaps that was a misunderstanding...
and that he must more closely analysize these issues before spouting
off words like "non-sense"; one on one he seemed quite willing to
listen... I often find that the more useful dialogues after these
sorts of things happen, well, after these sorts of things. I look
forward to more discussions on the subject with UK industry folks.
N.
On 4/28/05, David M. Berry <d.berry AT sussex.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Previous comments by Nevrkla include:
>
> > And yet, copyright seems under attack because it 'stands in the way'!
> > 'Freedom' has come to mean 'freedom to plagiarise', as a loose
> > coalition of academics and users of creative material try to
> > undervalue creativity by alleging that since 'there is nothing new
> > under the sun', nothing needs to be protected any more. What a
> > nihilistic and insulting view of creativity! ...
>
> >
> > the music industry does have to invent new business models and many
> > have been established over recent years. That said, the words 'new
> > business models' must mean just that – ways of developing business and
> > creating employment opportunities for individuals and wealth for the
> > country as a whole. An anarchic 'free for all' would have a
> > disastrous impact on the livelihoods of creators and inventors and
> > fatal consequences for the economic fabric of a modern society.
> >
>
> Westminster Media Forum (2004). Intellectual Property and Rights
> Ownership. Conference Proceedings, 9th December 2004
>
>
> On 28 Apr 2005, at 15:12, Ian Brown wrote:
>
> > I also liked:
> >
> > "Nevrkla continued to insist that CC licensing was the product of
> > "learned professors living in rarified luxurious environment supported
> > by public funds""
> >
> > If only academic life were so luxurious ;)
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[Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
Rob Myers, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
Neil Leyton, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
Ian Brown, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion, Neil Leyton, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
David M . Berry, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion, Neil Leyton, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion, Andres Guadamuz, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
Ian Brown, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
Paul Harkins, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion, Cory Doctorow, 04/28/2005
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[Cc-uk] Academics are not free either...,
David M . Berry, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either...,
Stuart Yeates, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either..., David M . Berry, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either..., mp, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either..., Ian Brown, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either...,
Christian Ahlert, 04/28/2005
- Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either..., Jonathan Mitchell, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] Academics are not free either...,
Stuart Yeates, 04/28/2005
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Re: [Cc-uk] "El Reg" On CC Panel Discussion,
Neil Leyton, 04/28/2005
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