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  • From: <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Version 4:0:Rebranding "noncommercial" to "commercial rights reserved"
  • Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:23:27 -0400


On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:31:34 -0700, Heather Morrison <hgmorris AT sfu.ca>
wrote:
> "Commercial rights reserved" does not mean the same thing as
> "noncommercial".

Indeed and that is one of the big problems with the NC licenses as they
are in actual fact "commercial rights reserved" works.

Indeed, from what has been explained to me in the past, the only way to
get something like a non-commercial license to function would be to put
in a binding promise that the copyright holder will not make any
commercial use of the work upon payment of a dollar or perhaps donation
of an amount to same named charity.

Unless the license in some way negates the right of the copyright
holder to make commercial use of the work and also to license others to
make commercial use of the work, we have a CRR license and not an NC
license no matter what we name it.

If there is a flaw in this thinking, I would like someone to point it
out and improve my education in this area.


> Noncommercial includes the concept that a work is
> meant to be primarily or entirely outside of the commercial realm
> rather than the creator reserving commercial rights.
>
> Some of us would like to broaden the part of our world that is not
> thought of in commercial terms - including many instances where people
> are paid for their work.

Huh? Another definition of commerce? Is that the goal? Can you give a
simple, broad outline of your thinking if that is the case?

>
> best,
>
> Heather Morrison

all the best,

drew




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