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- From: Ben Finney <bignose+hates-spam AT benfinney.id.au>
- To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial
- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:06:30 +1100
Kerrick Long <me AT kerricklong.com> writes:
> I'm sorry to break it to you, but the only reason many people use
> CC-NC is *because* it is so conservative.
Thank you for bringing this opinion.
> I do *not* want a blog running advertisements to use [my work], nor do
> I want a non-profit organization with a budget for other things using
> it, nor do I want it to expire and automatically be transferred into a
> CC-BY-SA license
Why not? You imply that the following continues the thought:
> if money is being made by using my work, or a budget could be
> allocated to pay for its usage, I want to earn a living
But this is a non sequitur. People can and do make a living *and* make
their work available under CC BY-SA and CC-BY.
So, other than wanting to make a living, what are your reasons for
wanting to prevent the above actions?
> I joined this mailing list because I wanted to introduce what
> real-world content creators who make their living producing creative
> works think into this discussion. I can tell from what I've been
> receiving that very few of you put bread on the table and a roof over
> your head by creating content,
You're quite wrong on that score.
> because many of you seem to be *completely opposed* to enabling
> anybody to make money with works licensed under any CC license.
No, exactly the opposite: I want to *enable* people to make money with
the works I license, that's why I don't put a non-commercial clause on
them.
I make more money because more potential customers know of me, and
that's because more people distribute my work (charging a fee if they
want to), spreading it further than I can alone.
You have made the common leap from “recipients can use my work for
commercial purposes” to “I can't make a living”. There are many people
for whom that is not true, so you need to examine what is preventing you
from making a living with free works.
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Ben Finney
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Ben Finney, 01/12/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Kerrick Long, 01/13/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Gregor Hagedorn, 01/13/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Whelan, Darius, 01/13/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, jonathon, 01/18/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
jmp, 01/13/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Greg London, 01/13/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Kerrick Long, 01/13/2012
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[cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Gregor Hagedorn, 01/21/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Kerrick Long, 01/21/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Ben Finney, 01/24/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Kerrick Long, 01/24/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Diane Cabell, 01/25/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial - CC+, Heather Morrison, 01/25/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial - CC+, Diane Peters, 01/25/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Chris Sakkas, 01/25/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Diane Cabell, 01/26/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, Jane Park, 01/26/2012
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[cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Gregor Hagedorn, 01/21/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Kerrick Long, 01/13/2012
- Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial, drew Roberts, 01/25/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Greg London, 01/13/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Kerrick Long, 01/13/2012
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Re: [cc-licenses] 4.0 NonCommercial,
Ben Finney, 01/12/2012
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