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Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?
- From: "Greg London"<email AT greglondon.com>
- To: "Development of Creative Commons licenses"<cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?
- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:29:39 -0500
An "early release" license makes sense for a work that starts out noncommercial and/or noderivative and after some number of years becomes CC-BY or public domain.
There is no "commons" in NC or ND. so an early release license would not take anything away from any commons, but would allow creators to commit to some shorter time frame where it WILL enter the commons via CC-BY.
Works that tend to have many many derivatives can keep all those derivatives in the commons with ShareAlike. But works that tend not to have lots of derivatives can see little functional difference between SA and something like CC-BY.
CC-BY is still a *contribution* to the commons. It simply allows derivatives to ne taken out of the commons. But the original remains.
Which is where something like an early release license would *contribute* to a commons by allowing creators to release the work to CC-BY after some number of years.
It is most specifically for people who want their work to be noncommercial and/or noderiv, but would ne willing to commit to releasing it to CC-BY after some number of years. Without the early release, it will most likely remain NC ND.
Greg
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There is no "commons" in NC or ND. so an early release license would not take anything away from any commons, but would allow creators to commit to some shorter time frame where it WILL enter the commons via CC-BY.
Works that tend to have many many derivatives can keep all those derivatives in the commons with ShareAlike. But works that tend not to have lots of derivatives can see little functional difference between SA and something like CC-BY.
CC-BY is still a *contribution* to the commons. It simply allows derivatives to ne taken out of the commons. But the original remains.
Which is where something like an early release license would *contribute* to a commons by allowing creators to release the work to CC-BY after some number of years.
It is most specifically for people who want their work to be noncommercial and/or noderiv, but would ne willing to commit to releasing it to CC-BY after some number of years. Without the early release, it will most likely remain NC ND.
Greg
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Rob Myers <rob AT robmyers.org>On 23/12/11 07:34, Javier Candeira wrote:
To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 18:07:58 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?
>
> I can publish my work with a note that says: "if you receive this work
> before date X, it's cc-by-nc, and if it's after date X, it's
> cc-by-sa". We don't need new licenses. At most, we need new deeds, if
> at all.
We also don't need to gift a future CC with a moral panic when
everyone's CC+7 (or whatever) works are about to enter the public domain.
Founders' Copyright may not have seen mass adoption but it was certainly
promoted and some of CC's critics (honestly or not) confused it with
CC's main licences.
The market has already rejected this idea IMO, and it doesn't build a
commons *now*.
- Rob.
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Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?
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- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, Greg London, 12/22/2011
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Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?,
Anthony, 12/22/2011
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Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?,
Micaela Gallerini, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?, Greg London, 12/23/2011
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Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?,
Javier Candeira, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?, Gregor Hagedorn, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, Greg London, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?, Rob Myers, 12/23/2011
- [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?, Heather Morrison, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?, Anthony, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, Greg London, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, drew Roberts, 12/24/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, Greg London, 12/27/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, drew Roberts, 12/28/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, Anthony, 12/28/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, drew Roberts, 12/30/2011
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Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?,
Micaela Gallerini, 12/23/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0 ?, Greg London, 12/30/2011
- Re: [cc-licenses] Time limited CC licenses for version 4.0?, Gregor Hagedorn, 12/23/2011
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