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  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses
  • Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 15:06:49 -0500

On Saturday 02 December 2006 11:03 am, James Grimmelmann wrote:
> drew Roberts wrote:
> > On Saturday 02 December 2006 10:32 am, James Grimmelmann wrote:
> >> Greg London wrote:
> >>> Without any DRM clause of any kind, ShareAlike has a loophole
> >>> that allows DRM Dave to use the work without sharing the work
> >>> on his platform. Only he can distribute works on his platform.
> >>> Only he can create derivatives on his platform.
> >>
> >> This is true. But the same is true if DRM Dave makes snow globes that
> >> play a CC-licensed song. Nobody else can put derivatives (or anything
> >> at all) on this sort of snow globe--simply because Dave is the one with
> >> the manufacturing plant. Why is this not a platform monopoly of this
> >> troubling sort?
> >
> > James, is this really an honest question on your part or are you just
> > trying to pin someone down to bolster your case?
>
> I want to put this question to Greg. You and he are making similar
> points, but you have different conceptual frameworks. My apologies for
> not making clearer that this is a question of him in particular, not of
> all opponents of parallel distribution.

Still, is it really an honest question?

Greg and I do come at this from different places, if you check the archives,
you can certainly see that. Greg puts forward the gift economy idea. I am
concerned with Freedom.

I am willing to use the weapons people buy to use against me in order to try
and protect myself though. That is one reason why I want my works to be
copyleft and I don't try to put them all in the public domain.

I see no reason that I must give people freedoms they would deny me at the
same time. You are welcome to try and enlighten me though.
>
> James

all the best,

drew
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