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  • From: James Grimmelmann <james AT grimmelmann.net>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Parallel Distribution and Non-Copyleft Licenses
  • Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:13:52 -0500

drew Roberts wrote:
On Saturday 02 December 2006 11:03 am, James Grimmelmann wrote:
drew Roberts wrote:
On Saturday 02 December 2006 10:32 am, James Grimmelmann wrote:
Greg London wrote:
Without any DRM clause of any kind, ShareAlike has a loophole
that allows DRM Dave to use the work without sharing the work
on his platform. Only he can distribute works on his platform.
Only he can create derivatives on his platform.
This is true. But the same is true if DRM Dave makes snow globes that
play a CC-licensed song. Nobody else can put derivatives (or anything
at all) on this sort of snow globe--simply because Dave is the one with
the manufacturing plant. Why is this not a platform monopoly of this
troubling sort?
James, is this really an honest question on your part or are you just
trying to pin someone down to bolster your case?
I want to put this question to Greg. You and he are making similar
points, but you have different conceptual frameworks. My apologies for
not making clearer that this is a question of him in particular, not of
all opponents of parallel distribution.

Still, is it really an honest question?

It was, and I think that Greg's responses since I asked it have addressed the issue.

I see no reason that I must give people freedoms they would deny me at the same time. You are welcome to try and enlighten me though.

Giving freedoms to those would deny us the same is an important value of tolerant liberal democracy. We strive to give everyone the same essential freedoms -- and we strive to intervene only when those would restrict those freedoms actually try to do so.

Of course, giving everyone equal opportunity is also an important value, so my appeal to important values isn't likely to resolve anything either way in the present discussion. :-)

James




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