Skip to Content.
Sympa Menu

cc-licenses - Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons licenses cause a problem

cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org

Subject: Development of Creative Commons licenses

List archive

Chronological Thread  
  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons licenses cause a problem
  • Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:13:33 -0400

On Monday 05 June 2006 06:15 pm, Peter Brink wrote:
> Nancy Ide skrev:
> > Ok, let me clarify. I appreciate Drew's note and apologize if I was
> > overly defensive--I think I was responding to the "tea-inspiring"
> > note from earlier today.
> >
> > To clarify: our use is this: we gather texts, "annotate" them with
> > linguistic information, and distribute them for use by mostly
> > researchers, but in a small number of cases, commercial enterprises,
> > which in turn consist mainly of publishers who are developing either
> > dictionaries or English-as-a-second language (ESL) texts. There are
> > two major uses: (1) use the texts to generate statistics about usage,
> > like, how many times a noun is followed by a verb, etc. (2) looking
> > for patterns, like how many times is " could care less" used instead
> > of "could not care less" in current usage. In case (1), the
> > researchers never even look at the text, they just generate
> > statistics from it. In case (2), most of the time a concordance,
> > consisting of a set of sentences, is looked at, say, to find all
> > occurrences of "could" followed within some number of words by
> > "care". The idea is to see how people use language. So, as an example
> > of a commercial use, a dictionary maker or an author an ESL textbook
> > might point out that "could care less" is more frequent than "could
> > not care less" in current usage. They might, in a rare instance, use
> > a sentence from one of the texts that was shown in the concordance to
> > use one of these constructions in their published text or dictionary.
>
> I really don't understand your problem. Why would your data-mining
> project violate anyones copyright? What is your infringement case, that
> is how do you think you would violate the copyright of the works you
> gather statistics from?

Peter,

I have been pondering that myself and have asked some more questions.

One thing I thought of is that they may consider that annotating the texts
makes a derivative work and they may be right.

So, if this is one of the reasonings, this would be an issue with all ND
licensed works, would it not.

I then wonder if you could create an annotation of a text and only distribute
your annotation and not the underlying text. If you did this, would this be a
copyright violation? It might indeed be a derivative work, but there would be
nothing of the original work remaining. (Well, depending on what all is
entailed in an annotation.) Again, IANAL. I tend to have ay more questions
than answers.

>
> /Peter Brink

all the best,

drew
--
http://www.ourmedia.org/node/145261
Record a song and you might win $1,000.00
http://www.ourmedia.org/user/17145





Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.

Top of Page