Development of Creative Commons licenses

[drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>]

On Tuesday 19 July 2005 05:23 am, Takemoto wrote:
> As we have seen with open source, when the right licence exists
> there is a lot of sharing, and that means a lot of benefit for a lot of
> people. To succeed a licence has to reward those that take part
> to the right extent.
>
> I don't think that the licences have got there yet when it comes to
> the sharing of written words. If they had, then I think that we would
> see a lot more books with CC type licences.
>
> I think that a similar licence, perhaps an "only for streaming" licence,
> or "only for computers" licence, might provide an incentive for
> more musicians to allow their music to become available for free.

This could be, but I tend to think it is more that there is another 
possibility. I like the copyleft aspects of BY-SA myself. I think the real 
issue is that it is early days still. The pool of available works to build on 
is still small. Also, the works are not all in a "usable friendly form" - I 
am working with some friends on some projects now, some of which at least, 
will be released BY-SA and the primary release formats will be ardour 
( freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php ) project files, and mixed and individual 
tracks in wav, flac, and ogg-vorbis.

I am also actively experimenting with ways to fund the creation of such music.

The closer we can get to a standard practice of releasing works in "source 
form" the better the BY-SA license will work in my opinion.

Also, for the BY-SA to work best, I think that the NC option needs to be left 
off. I think forever, but certainly until the NC applicability issue is 
cleared up.

all the best,

drew
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bjorn Wijers" <mailings AT bdisfunctional.net>
> To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts"
> <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Proposal for a new kind of CC license - "preservation license"
>
> > I have been lurking most of the time. However on the topic of new
> > licenses I hold a firm opinion:
> >
> > less is more.
> >
> > Stop adding new licenses. Actually in an ideal world we wouldn't need
> > licenses altogether, the less we (need to) use them the better...
> >
> > Most people have enough troubles in understanding the CC licenses
> > concept and adding more licenses is not helping. I'm saying this based
> > on my own experiences with Simuze (http://www.simuze.nl) a Dutch music
> > community based on sharing of music under CC licenses. Most of the
> > people I've met had a lot of problems understanding the 'subtle'
> > differences between licenses. Especially The sampling and developing
> > nations license do in my view more harm than good.
> >
> > grtz
> > BjornW
> >
> > Mathias Klang wrote:
> > > I agree with Marcus that we should be wary of new licenses. CC has been
> > > built upon its simplicity and universal appeal. The creation of new
> > > licenses (and also the rapid development of new versions) should be
> > > kept to a minumum. CC will not grow stronger by applying new licenses
> > > but through the application of its fundamental ideology.
> > >
> > > The latter should (as Marcus expresses) be explored and elaborated.
> > >
> > > Mathias
> > >
> > > Marcus Bornfreund wrote:
> > >> Hi all. Here's another thought, one expressed to me in-person recently
> > >> by Richard Stallman and supported by several members of our own
> > >> community: */No new licences/*.
> > >>
> > >> Instead, I suggest that we stop and consider the mandate of Creative
> > >> Commons. What do we want people to infer when they see the CC in a
> > >> circle on a creative work? What is CC's ideology? Is it to promote
> > >> collaboration and sharing whenever possible, or in a particular
> > >> fashion? If the former, than the more licences the merrier so long as
> > >> they do not logically conflict; if the latter, perhaps less is more...
> > >>
> > >> /Marcus
> > >>
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