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[John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>]

Hi all,

it would probably be redundant to send another reporting email on the
call yesterday, as the important bits are already covered by Jane's SOTC
email via the affiliates list and also in the discussion between Alek,
Ryan, Teresa and others.

We will ping you again before the next staff call ...

Best
John


Am 11.11.2015 um 13:30 schrieb Teresa Nobre:
> Hi all,
> 
> I agree with Alek on this.
> As a small team we always struggle with time, so it's quite difficult to
> catch up with these kind of calls on mailing lists. I am sure we would
> have made an effort to provide you with a short report if we had
> received a personal email to do so. I mean, this door-to-door thing is
> definitely what works for us.
> I understand that RC's cannot do that all the time, but since we were
> all together at the summit, it's a pity that we missed that opportunity
> to gather some ideas, get some affiliates involved. 
> 
> Best,
> Teresa
> 
> 
> 
> 2015-11-11 11:38 GMT+00:00 Alek Tarkowski <alek AT creativecommons.pl
> <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>>:
> 
>     Ryan,
> 
>     I do not understand this. It’s not realistic to give people several
>     days to respond. We also know that without extra “push” we don’t get
>     many response from our network, since general level of engagement is
>     low. (This is the bit that we agree on).I wish that the schedule was
>     set in a way that made involvement of affiliates realistic, and that
>     it was as important a goal as your Year End Campaign. Actually
>     “going door to door” does work - for example we had a good response
>     to the pre-summit survey.  
> 
>     It’s also not true that you did not receive these suggestions earlier.
>     The plan was actually shared on  the list on October 5, due to list
>     malfunction. Two days later, I wrote:
> 
>     "Hi Jane,
> 
>     thanks for sharing this. It sounds like you have a really sound plan
>     for the report, and to build upon last year’s work.
> 
>     i want to share some thoughts from the perspective of an affiliate:
>     - last year the report did not do a very good job in showing the
>     achievements of our network across the world, I’m hoping we can
>     improve that this year - I would underline the international aspect
>     of the report in the outline. I agree that discussing this at the
>     Summit is a good idea, although we might not find time during the
>     Day 0 meeting. Maybe there is a chance to have some affiliates
>     actively involved in preparing the report. please don’t see our role
>     mainly as translators :)
>     - I hope you’re aware that there’s a similar effort, conducted by a
>     group of organisations (mainly affiliates, including CC Poland)
>     under the OPN umbrella - the “State of Open Policy” report. we wrote
>     about it recently on this list. it would be good if we could figure
>     out how these two publications can “work together”. that’s another
>     thing we can discuss in Seoul.
> 
>     I am volunteering to help out with these two things. I unfortunately
>     can’t help with providing platform data. 
> 
>     all the best,
> 
>     Alek”
> 
>     furthermore, I raised this issue personally with Jane at the Summit
>     and wrote you a follow-up email on the 19th. It seems to me that it
>     was actually you and your team that were slow to respond to this
>     idea, making it impossible to include it. 
> 
>     I am a bit tired of hearing that the next time things will be
>     improved. Next year’s report will be written in 12 months. That’s a
>     lot of time to wait. Why didn’t we have this conversation over the
>     summer, for example? That was actually the best, comfortable
>     opportunity to discuss this - but none of us were aware that the
>     next report is in the works.
> 
>     With regard to CC fundraising - you promised in July a standalone
>     session at the Summit. It never happened.
> 
>     Best,
> 
>     Alek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>     On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:21, Ryan Merkley <ryan AT creativecommons.org
>>     <mailto:ryan AT creativecommons.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Unfortunately, we can't stretch the schedule. The report has to go
>>     live on Dec 7 to work into our Year End Campaign and press push,
>>     and we already made commitments to give affiliates sufficient time
>>     to translate. 
>>
>>     We all want to see stronger engagement, but it's too late for new
>>     additions -- the opportunity for this particular project was much
>>     earlier in the process. We shared the plan and asked for feedback
>>     on October 1, but these ideas didn't come forward until over a
>>     month later. It's unfortunate, because they're good ideas, but we
>>     also need to publish the report on schedule to meet our other
>>     objectives. Getting RCs to go door-to-door when e-mails don't
>>     generate much interest or response is probably not a viable
>>     solution, and maybe part of a larger issue around overall network
>>     capacity and engagement. Something we should work on for our
>>     larger network strategy, and for next year's report.
>>
>>     r.
> 
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>     European Policy Fellow, Creative Commons
>     Twitter: @atarkowski / @ccpolska
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