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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET)
- From: Teresa Nobre <teresaraposonobre AT gmail.com>
- To: Alek Tarkowski <alek AT creativecommons.pl>
- Cc: Ryan Merkley <ryan AT creativecommons.org>, "cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET)
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:30:11 +0000
Hi all,
I agree with Alek on this.
As a small team we always struggle with time, so it's quite difficult to catch up with these kind of calls on mailing lists. I am sure we would have made an effort to provide you with a short report if we had received a personal email to do so. I mean, this door-to-door thing is definitely what works for us.
I understand that RC's cannot do that all the time, but since we were all together at the summit, it's a pity that we missed that opportunity to gather some ideas, get some affiliates involved.
Best,
Teresa
2015-11-11 11:38 GMT+00:00 Alek Tarkowski <alek AT creativecommons.pl>:
Ryan,I do not understand this. It’s not realistic to give people several days to respond. We also know that without extra “push” we don’t get many response from our network, since general level of engagement is low. (This is the bit that we agree on).I wish that the schedule was set in a way that made involvement of affiliates realistic, and that it was as important a goal as your Year End Campaign. Actually “going door to door” does work - for example we had a good response to the pre-summit survey.It’s also not true that you did not receive these suggestions earlier.The plan was actually shared on the list on October 5, due to list malfunction. Two days later, I wrote:"Hi Jane,thanks for sharing this. It sounds like you have a really sound plan for the report, and to build upon last year’s work.i want to share some thoughts from the perspective of an affiliate:- last year the report did not do a very good job in showing the achievements of our network across the world, I’m hoping we can improve that this year - I would underline the international aspect of the report in the outline. I agree that discussing this at the Summit is a good idea, although we might not find time during the Day 0 meeting. Maybe there is a chance to have some affiliates actively involved in preparing the report. please don’t see our role mainly as translators :)- I hope you’re aware that there’s a similar effort, conducted by a group of organisations (mainly affiliates, including CC Poland) under the OPN umbrella - the “State of Open Policy” report. we wrote about it recently on this list. it would be good if we could figure out how these two publications can “work together”. that’s another thing we can discuss in Seoul.I am volunteering to help out with these two things. I unfortunately can’t help with providing platform data.all the best,Alek”furthermore, I raised this issue personally with Jane at the Summit and wrote you a follow-up email on the 19th. It seems to me that it was actually you and your team that were slow to respond to this idea, making it impossible to include it.I am a bit tired of hearing that the next time things will be improved. Next year’s report will be written in 12 months. That’s a lot of time to wait. Why didn’t we have this conversation over the summer, for example? That was actually the best, comfortable opportunity to discuss this - but none of us were aware that the next report is in the works.With regard to CC fundraising - you promised in July a standalone session at the Summit. It never happened.Best,AlekOn 10 Nov 2015, at 21:21, Ryan Merkley <ryan AT creativecommons.org> wrote:Unfortunately, we can't stretch the schedule. The report has to go live on Dec 7 to work into our Year End Campaign and press push, and we already made commitments to give affiliates sufficient time to translate.
We all want to see stronger engagement, but it's too late for new additions -- the opportunity for this particular project was much earlier in the process. We shared the plan and asked for feedback on October 1, but these ideas didn't come forward until over a month later. It's unfortunate, because they're good ideas, but we also need to publish the report on schedule to meet our other objectives. Getting RCs to go door-to-door when e-mails don't generate much interest or response is probably not a viable solution, and maybe part of a larger issue around overall network capacity and engagement. Something we should work on for our larger network strategy, and for next year's report.
r.--koordynator, Creative Commons PolskaEuropean Policy Fellow, Creative Commons
Twitter: @atarkowski / @ccpolska
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
Teresa Nobre, 11/11/2015
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
Alek Tarkowski, 11/11/2015
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
Ryan Merkley, 11/10/2015
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
Alek Tarkowski, 11/10/2015
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
John Hendrik Weitzmann, 11/10/2015
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John Weitzmann, 11/23/2015
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
Alek Tarkowski, 11/23/2015
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Re: [CC-Europe] Input for the all-staff call? (tomorrow 7 p.m. CET),
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