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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

> Message from Steven
> ===================
> Sindi wrote:
> > Is it possible to run BSD programs (such as Safari graphical
> > browser) in an X window on the linux computer?
>
> Yes, it should be possible (assuming the remote BSD system
> is able to run X applications).

Apparently this version of Mac (OS 10.3) uses Aqua not X11, but you can 
add X11 from the third CD.  I presume Opera would run in Aqua but maybe 
only X11 can be exported.

> > export DISPLAY=192.168.1.7:0
> > icewm &
> > (or jwm &)

> Those commands will be executed on the BSD computer,
> so I'm not sure whether their export command is exactly
> the same.  Also I don't know what window manager(s) will
> be available there:  icewm, jwm, whatever.

bash shell

Start X11 on the Mac.

DISPLAY=:0:0; export DISPLAY

Then do I type

rxvt &
(or icewm & and use that menu)

I have not tried this.  I don't know which IP number this would be 
exported to if two people are logged in (via two ethernet connections?).

Mac has icewm.

> > Presumably you can then use the window manager menu to
> > run programs or start an rxvt to do things in.
>
> Or you can simply send an xterm (instead of wm) from
> the BSD system.  Then you execute whatever you want
> from the xterm (assuming what you want is actually
> available on the BSD system).

I would have to put it there first.  Opera is a 2 hour download.
It should be possible to compile links on the Mac but may not be worth the 
effort of collecting all the libraries needed.  I can always ssh from 
Mac to sdf after sshing to Mac.

Sindi

> Cheers,
> Steven
>
>
>
>
> > Would this work with a Mac, if I knew the name of the window manager?
> > Or is there too much overlay (something similar to KDE or GNOME)?
> >
> > ---------------------
> >
> >
> > We could also share a modem connection without being limited to running
> > only Mac programs, if we can figure out how to set the Mac as default
> > gateway at the Mac end (probably with a GUI under System Preferences,
> > Sharing - where I finally found 'remote login' for starting sshd, and
> > webpage server for httpd and ftp server.  (In linux I would run
> > rpc.portmap rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd on the default gateway computer).
> >
> > When doing this with two linux computers I use a kernel with RPC and NFS
> > support and ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 on client and 192.168.1.1 on gateway
> >
> > On client:
> >
> > insmod sunrpc
> > insmod lockd
> > insmod nfsd rpc.portmap
> > mount -t nfs 192.168.1.1: / / mnt
> >
> > Do I do the above on linux computer (client) to share a modem connection
> > with the Mac (default gateway?).
> >
> > -----------------
> >
> > To go in the other direction (dial with linux, share on the Mac using
> > console links or lynx to browse) I compiled the 'dropbear' ssh server
> > and dropbearkey.  I left it as defaults but probably don't need all the
> > features such as shadow lastlog utmpx putuxline.  (Compiling without these
> > reduced the file sizes by less than 1K).
> >
> > I stripped and got 126K dropbear and 58K dropbearkey which I will upload
> > (with two html versions of the man pages and README which explains how to
> > make keys).
> >
> > I also posted dbclient (ssh client) and scp, with html man pages.
> >
> > http://keesan.freeshell.org/bl/dropbear-0.49-glibc225.tgz  90K
> > http://keesan.freeshell.org/bl/dbclient-scp-0.49-glibc225.tgz  67K
> >
> > To set up dropbear README says to generate server keys with dropbearkey:
> > dropbearkey -t rsa -f dropbear_rsa_host_key
> > dropbearkey -t dss -f dropbear_dss_host_key
> >
> > 'this may take a while'  Public key portion is:  ssh-rsa (long string)
> > Fingerprint:  md5 ....
> >
> > The man page says to copy the keys to /etc/dropbear.
> >
> > I typed dropbear and it is listed in ps.  Takes 0.1% mem.
> >
> > I then inserted network module and ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
> >
> > ssh user AT 192.168.1.2
> > answered 'yes' to the question
> > user AT 192.168.1.2's password:
> > It won't take my user password.  Permission denied.
> > (The password works for a regular login as user.)
> > Won't work as root either.
> > Won't work to connect to 127.0.0.1 (local loopback).
> >
> > The contents of the man pages is mostly in --help.
> >
> > I am leaving everything as defaults and have not disallowed root logins or
> > disabled password logins or disabled local port or remote port forwarding
> > (should I?).  It created its own /var/run/dropbear.pid (the default).
> > Default port 22.  I tried both ssh (gives me a longer message about not
> > accepting the password) and dbclient.
> >
> > If I run httpd or ftpd I can access my own computer this way.
> > What am I doing wrong, or not doing, with this ssh server?
> >
> > This should be a short download even via modem if someone such as Steven
> > is willing to get it working.  dropbear and dbclient together for glibc225
> > total less than Steven's static ssh (uclibc?).  Can they be compiled for
> > libc5?
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Another option (less secure) is to use inetd (busybox) as a telnet server
> > (without root access if connected to the internet).  I did this via
> > nullmodem cable - is it possible via network cable or wireless?
> >
> > https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/baslinux/2004-October/005365.html
> >
> > The serial dumb terminal solution is invalid for the Mac (no serial port).
> >
> > We have a few days to play with this before the latest foot of snow melts.
> >
> > Sindi
> >
> > keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org
> > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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