Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com>]

Hello Jerry,

I quite agree. If my comments sounded as though I was disagreeing with you, it was not intentional. The second phrase expands on the first one, so colloquially we might say "left, right, hither, yon - everywhere!"

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Jerry Shepherd <jshepherd53 AT gmail.com> wrote:

Hi David,

 

I just want to clarify that I think you are definitely correct that the import of the two phrases is, as you said, a "rather extensive way of saying, 'everywhere.' "  The point I was making in my reply to Stewart is that the relationship between the two phrases is not epexegetical; i.e., the second phrase is not explaining the first phrase.  Rather, they are working together as parallel merisms.

 

Blessings,

 

Jerry

Jerry Shepherd

Taylor Seminary

Edmonton, Alberta

jshepherd53 AT gmail.com

 

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Stewart Felker <stewart.felker AT gmail.com> wrote:

וְדִבֶּר שָׁלֹום לַגֹּויִם וּמָשְׁלֹו מִיָּם עַד יָם וּמִנָּהָר עַד אַפְסֵי אָֽרֶץ

I have two issues here. משלו here is to be understood as "his dominion" - the object of דבר, correct? So, "and he will proclaim peace to the nations and [proclaim] his ruling/dominion..." Most major translations seem to be obscure this, supplying that his dominion "will extend" or "will be" from sea to sea.

וּמָשְׁלֹו מִיָּם עַד יָם looks more like a verbless clause to me: He will proclaim peace to the nations, and his dominion is/will be from sea to sea etc.  I'm not sure the grammar will support it as an object of דִבֶּר. It reads more naturally as a separate clause.

Also, is it possible that the waw connecting מים עד ים with מנהר עד אפסי ארץ is epexegetical?

I tend to think so. "From sea to sea, from the River to the ends of the earth/land" appears to be a rather extensive way of saying "everywhere."

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