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- From: Mike Burke <michaelgburk AT yahoo.com>
- To: Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com>, "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי
- Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:46:55 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>An electronic search of Hamlet would either turn up or not turn up the
phrase we were looking for, depending on whether he used it there or
not. That's what this list is for: dealing with the language of the
Hebrew Bible as we have received it, and seeking to understand it.<<<<
If you wanted to understand the language of Shakespeare, there would be no reason to limit yourself to the text of Hamlet "as we have received it," and every reason to look at The King James Bible, Julius Caesar, Henry V, the Merchant of Venice, the Taming of the Shrew, etc.,etc., etc.
I'm interested in how Hebrew words are, were, and can be used (in both ancient and modern Hebrew), and I should think that anyone interested in understanding the language of the Hebrew Bible would be interested extra biblical sources.
K. Randolph said that an electronic search of the text of the Hebrew Bible didn't turn up the phrase I offered, but does that mean בעדי (the word I'm interested in here) couldn't be used in that phrase (or a phrase like it), or that it isn't so used in the Targums, Mishna, or Talmud?
I don't know if it is or isn't, as I didn't do an electronic search of every conceivable Hebrew Text before I asked my question.
I was wondering if בעדי could be used in a particular context, and I offered an example of the kind of context I was thinking of.
If any of you learned scholars came across the sentence " מבדיל בעדי גויים ," how would you translate it?
>>>>I really don't know what it is you're trying to do with these contextless questions, words and phrases<<<<
I put the word in which I'm interested in a context for you.
I'd like to know whether the word could be used in that context, and what it would mean (or are you saying it cannot be used in that context, and the sentence I constructed is meaningless?)
From: Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com>
To: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי
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If you wanted to understand the language of Shakespeare, there would be no reason to limit yourself to the text of Hamlet "as we have received it," and every reason to look at The King James Bible, Julius Caesar, Henry V, the Merchant of Venice, the Taming of the Shrew, etc.,etc., etc.
I'm interested in how Hebrew words are, were, and can be used (in both ancient and modern Hebrew), and I should think that anyone interested in understanding the language of the Hebrew Bible would be interested extra biblical sources.
K. Randolph said that an electronic search of the text of the Hebrew Bible didn't turn up the phrase I offered, but does that mean בעדי (the word I'm interested in here) couldn't be used in that phrase (or a phrase like it), or that it isn't so used in the Targums, Mishna, or Talmud?
I don't know if it is or isn't, as I didn't do an electronic search of every conceivable Hebrew Text before I asked my question.
I was wondering if בעדי could be used in a particular context, and I offered an example of the kind of context I was thinking of.
If any of you learned scholars came across the sentence " מבדיל בעדי גויים ," how would you translate it?
>>>>I really don't know what it is you're trying to do with these contextless questions, words and phrases<<<<
I put the word in which I'm interested in a context for you.
I'd like to know whether the word could be used in that context, and what it would mean (or are you saying it cannot be used in that context, and the sentence I constructed is meaningless?)
Michael Gerard Burke
From: Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com>
To: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Mike Burke <michaelgburk AT yahoo.com> wrote:
Would an electronic search of Hamlet turn up every possible phrase in which every word Shakespeare used in Hamlet could properly be used in Elizabethan English (or which he himself used in his collected works)?
Michael Gerard Burke
Your question doesn't make sense. We deal in actual text from the Hebrew Bible here, not hypothetical phrases concocted out of someone's head. An electronic search of Hamlet would either turn up or not turn up the phrase we were looking for, depending on whether he used it there or not. That's what this list is for: dealing with the language of the Hebrew Bible as we have received it, and seeking to understand it. I really don't know what it is you're trying to do with these contextless questions, words and phrases.
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Dave Washburn
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[b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
K Randolph, 05/20/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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Dave Washburn, 05/20/2013
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Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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David Kolinsky, 05/20/2013
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Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי, Dave Washburn, 05/20/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
David Kolinsky, 05/20/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי, Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 05/20/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] מבדיל בעדי,
Dave Washburn, 05/20/2013
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Mike Burke, 05/20/2013
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K Randolph, 05/20/2013
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