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- From: John Leake <jesleake AT yahoo.co.uk>
- To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol
- Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 23:16:15 +0100
Sorry, Rolf, do you mean that short vowels are regularly represented on Qumran texts? I must admit that I was not under that impression; even Mishnaic Hebrew typically only uses matres lectiones for long vowels, doesn't it? But I must admit that all my Qumran reading has been from Lohse's _Die Texte aus Qumran: Hebräisch und Deutsch_, which Grace Emmerson (I think) told me was normalized. I'd have thought the only real clue was looking for apocopated forms, as indeed you have. I can't imagine gemination ever being provable or disprovable, though I can see the idea of stress giving ride to gemination. Assuming that Arabic can by taken as a near cognate, however (as it too has a yaqtul - jussive - form used in place of the suffix form qatala where it is negated by the negative particle lam). My Arabic guess would be that something akin to the emphatic particle la (لَ) might do it. Ant the particle that comes to mind is, of course, the enclitic particle נא (which has a qameS, often a sign of a historic short /a/). In Arabic, fa (فَ) combines with la to form a combined particle fal (فَلْ) that often introduces the apodosis of a condition - and a jussive may well be the verb in the apodosis (of course, ideas of time reference are hard to pin down in conditionals, but the jussive may be equivalent to the suffix tense in these statements). I could imagine something similar in Hebrew: wa-na-yiqtol -> wan-yiqtol -> wayyiqtol, the first person singular becoming wā'eqtol just as the original article han- became hā- before aleph and resh (losing the nun by analogy).To me it makes perfect sense and makes the waw-consecutive seem rather easy to understand. But it's just a casual hypothesis I toyed with thirty years ago, excited by patrers shared between Hebrew and Arabic. Of course, it might be something I absorbed while reading, and if not I'm sure I'm not alone in coming up with it. Stii, sometimes our youthful 'theories' turn out to have be unconscious borrowings. John Leake ----------------------------------ان صاحب حياة هانئة لا يدونها انما يحياها He who has a comfortable life doesn't write about it - he lives it ---------------------------------- On 15 May 2013, at 19:18, "Rolf" <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no> wrote: Dear Dave, |
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol
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- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Isaac Fried, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Isaac Fried, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Rolf, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Dave Washburn, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Rolf, 05/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, John Leake, 05/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Ken Penner, 05/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Ken Penner, 05/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Yigal Levin, 05/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Isaac Fried, 05/17/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Jerry Shepherd, 05/20/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, K Randolph, 05/22/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Jerry Shepherd, 05/22/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Isaac Fried, 05/14/2013
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