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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- To: yohanan.bin.dawidh AT gmail.com, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood
- Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 19:38:19 -0500 (EST)
Yohanan bin-Dawidh:
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You wrote: “ I do not adhere to the notion that Midyan is
Mitanni, unless his claim is that the wife of 'Avraham, i.e. K'turah was
Hurrian, and it was her, rather than 'Avraham who gave Midyan his name? The
text of the Miq'ra places Midyan as the son of 'Avraham. And with regards to
place names, the only way Midyan is linked with Mitanni, is if people from
Mitanni uprooted themselves and moved to Kena'an, much like 'Avraham moved to
Kena'an.”
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Two of Keturah’s sons by Abraham are named MDYN and MDN. At Genesis 25: 6, both MDYN and MDN are sent “eastward,
unto the east country”. That makes sense
only if Keturah was a Hurrian from “the east country”, that is, the Hurrian
state of Mitanni in Late Bronze Age eastern Syria.
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Keturah, an ethnic Hurrian with a classic Hurrian name who
hailed from Mitanni, had two sons who were named after her homeland of
Mitanni. The Hittite cuneiform spelling
of Mitanni is mi-ta-an-ni, having 4 cuneiform segments, whereas the Amarna
Letters’ abbreviated spelling of Mitanni is mi-ta-ni, having 3 Akkadian-style cuneiform
segments. In my opinion, the Hurrian
verb mid- is the root of the name Mitanni, with such verb routinely having the
D change to T when Hurrian suffixes are added.
On that basis, the Amarna Letters’ mi-ta-ni was conceptualized as being
mi-da-ni and was spelled in alphabetical Hebrew as MDN: one Hebrew letter per one Hurrian/cuneiform
segment. As to the longer version with a
Hebrew yod/Y, scholar Edward Lipinski has pointed out that in the phrase “Uriah
the Hittite”, XTY should be viewed as being the well-attested Hurrian personal
name Xuti-ya or Xuti-a, where Hebrew yod/Y represents the Hurrian true vowel A
as its own separate segment. Applying
that concept to MDYN, and recognizing that Biblical Hebrew never doubles a
consonant if there is no vowel in between, we see that mi-ta-an-ni was
conceptualized as being mi-da-a-ni, and hence spelled MDYN in alphabetical
Biblical Hebrew: 4 Hebrew letters for 4
Hurrian/cuneiform segments.
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If Keturah were from Arabia, as often supposed, it would not
make sense for her children to be sent “eastward, unto the east country”, that
is, to eastern Syria, which in the Late Bronze Age was the location of the
Hurrian state of Mitanni. In fact, “Keturah”
is a Hurrian name, two of her sons have names -- MDN and MDYN -- that recall
her Hurrian homeland of Mitanni, and as such it is very fitting that at Genesis
25: 6, sons MDN and MDYN are sent “eastward, unto the east country”, that is,
to mi-ta-ni/mi-da-ni/MDN, alternatively spelled mi-ta-an-ni/mi-da-a-ni/MDYN.
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Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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[b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood
, (continued)
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[b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
kenneth greifer, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, George Athas, 01/08/2013
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[b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
kenneth greifer, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Zalman Romanoff, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
JimStinehart, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
jimstinehart, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
jimstinehart, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
jimstinehart, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Jethro the hurrian (was: Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood), Norman Cohn, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
JimStinehart, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, George Athas, 01/08/2013
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[b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
kenneth greifer, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Norman Cohn, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Norman Cohn, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Norman Cohn, 01/08/2013
- [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, kenneth greifer, 01/09/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, JimStinehart, 01/09/2013
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[b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
kenneth greifer, 01/08/2013
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