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- From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
- To: bjwvmw AT com-pair.net, kenneth AT messianicmistakes.com, b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood
- Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:10:41 -0500 (EST)
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III: You wrote: “There is nothing in the immediate context that Zipporah is from Midian, the Hurrian state of Mittani. That is eisegesis of which most of your posts have been very guilty of.”
1. First and foremost, let me note that you and I a-g-r-e-e as to the basic nature of what’s going on at Exodus 4: 25. 2. But the story only makes good sense if Moses’ wife Zipporah is, unlike Moses, from a part of the world that abhorred circumcision. Otherwise, why wouldn’t Gershom have been circumcised as a matter of course? 3. As to
whether Zipporah is from MDYN, the Hurrian state of (a) It’s certain that Zipporah is from MDYN, that Moses marries her in MDYN, and that they reside in MDYN for some time after their marriage: “Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelt in the
(b) All of
the names of Moses’ in-laws, such as Zipporah, Jethro, Hobab, Heber, Jael, etc.,
appear to be Hurrian names, not west Semitic names. That fits in perfectly with MDYN being
(c) Nothing
from Genesis through II Kings undercuts MDYN as being northern Mesopotamia,
which the older Biblical authors recognize as being the Late Bronze Age Hurrian
state of (d) The
linguistic match of MDYN to 4. The
Bible is much older and more historically accurate than university scholars
realize. The Hurrian state of
5. The
erroneous view that the Bible non-historically views MDYN as being an unattested
name of a region in southwestern Arabia derives solely, as to books in the Bible
preceding Isaiah, from mistakenly thinking that XRB-H at Exodus 3: 1 is an
explicit reference to Mt. Sinai in the southern Sinai, near southwestern
Arabia. But nothing could be
farther from the truth. XRB is used
over 40 times as a Hebrew common word throughout the Bible, and at Exodus 3: 1
XRB-H is used as a Hebrew common
word with the following generic meaning:
“to the true desert”. That
common word does not mandate a reference to Being from that part of the world, and having a Kassite connection as well [per Numbers 12: 1], it’s no real surprise that Zipporah was not keen on having her son Gershom circumcised. I agree with you that it was Moses’ responsibility to make sure that Gershom was circumcised, and that YHWH was mightily displeased at Moses’ failure to be more forceful in that regard. Jim Stinehart |
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
JimStinehart, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
jimstinehart, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
jimstinehart, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
jimstinehart, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Jethro the hurrian (was: Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood), Norman Cohn, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
JimStinehart, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, George Athas, 01/08/2013
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[b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
kenneth greifer, 01/08/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Norman Cohn, 01/08/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, Norman Cohn, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Norman Cohn, 01/08/2013
- [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood, kenneth greifer, 01/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
JimStinehart, 01/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Oun Kwon, 01/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
K Randolph, 01/10/2013
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[b-hebrew] Immah: adam, Eve and Gen 3:6 -,
Norman Cohn, 01/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Immah: adam, Eve and Gen 3:6 -, K Randolph, 01/10/2013
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[b-hebrew] Immah: adam, Eve and Gen 3:6 -,
Norman Cohn, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
K Randolph, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Exodus 4:25 bridegroom of blood,
Oun Kwon, 01/09/2013
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