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  • From: kenneth greifer <greifer AT hotmail.com>
  • To: <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22 answering quotes
  • Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:27:17 +0000


Pere,

Are you sure Psalm 22:25 can't say "You did not hate answering an afflicted
one" instead of "You did not hate to answer an afflicted one"? Genesis 45:3
uses the verb "to be able" yud kaf lamed which might need the word "to" after
it before infinitives. Maybe you don't need "to" before the infinitive of the
verb "to answer." Do you always need "to" in front of infinitives?

How do you know there is a noun "affliction" spelled ayin nun vav tav if it
is only used once in Psalm 22:25? There is a word spelled ayin nun vav hay
that is translated "humility" in Proverbs 15:33 and Proverbs 18:12. Also,
Psalm 18:36 and 2 Samuel 22:36 have the word translated "humility", but I
think it might say "Your answering (or Your humility) made me great" because
in Psalm 18:4 and 18:7 it says David called on G-d to help him, so maybe G-d
answered him.

Kenneth Greifer


Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 07:13:21 +0200
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 22 answering quotes
From: pporta7 AT gmail.com
To: greifer AT hotmail.com
CC: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org


Kenneth,

the last word in Ps 22:22 means "You answered me" and not "answer me!".
In Jb 10:9 we have the parallel "asitani", you made me.
In my opinion there is no reason to translate 'anitani' for an Imperative.
Now, in Ps 22:25 'enut" is a noun (affliction) and not a verb (to answer).
The usual way to mean "You did not detest answering an afflicted one" is
using the Infinitive 'la'anot' ------- look at Gn 45:3.

Heartly,

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)


2011/4/10 kenneth greifer <greifer AT hotmail.com>


Psalm 22:22 seems to say "...You answered me", but most translations say
"answer me" with the command form. Psalm 22:25 says "You did not hate the
affliction (afflicting?) an afflicted one", but it could say "You did not
hate answering an afflicted one". It sounds like G-d answered the cry of the
person in the from Psalm 22:2-3, but the translations make it sound like he
was not answered. Am I misunderstanding the psalm?

Kenneth Greifer

"Real intellectuals can discuss any subject, but pseudo-intellectual snobs
only discuss things they agree with." (I noticed many b-hebrew members have
little sayings under their names, so I came up with this one. I wonder if
that is allowed or do you have to quote someone else?)
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