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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] one-to-one rendering of olam
  • Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:39:13 -0500

In Gen. 13:15 AD OLAM is 'forever', namely, with no time limit set ––– with no statute of limitation. The fact that someone builds a house, a shed, a driveway, a fence, or whatnot, on your land is another issue; it happens everyday everywhere.
Read again Jeremiah chapter 32, and recall verse 15:

כי כה אמר יהוה צבאות אלהי ישראל עוד יקנו בתים ושדות וכרמים בארץ הזאת

and tell me if he was right, or what.

Isaac Fried, Boston University


On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:03 PM, fred burlingame wrote:

Hello Isaac:

Thanks for your comments.

You could be right, since I am but the consumer 1,000 years removed, rather than the creator, of the masoretic text.

But ... how do you read עד עולם in genesis 13:15; and in the context of 2 chronicles 36:17? "forever?" "eternally?" And if so, how do you define "forever" and "eternally" in terms of length of time?

Or perhaps you understand עד עולם in this particular context, in yet a third and different manner?

I look forward to hearing from you, on your precise meaning of this phrase in this verse?

I note in closing that surely someone else's house stands on that land today at this very moment.

regards,

fred burlingame

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
I am sorry to have to say this, but this talk of a "hidden" period of time is in my opinion a symptom of a basic misunderstanding of the workings and nature of the Hebrew language. The rest is theology.

Isaac Fried, Boston University







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