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- From: "Arnaud Fournet" <fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr>
- To: "Isaac Fried" <if AT math.bu.edu>
- Cc: Hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix
- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:13:18 +0100
From: "Isaac Fried" <if AT math.bu.edu>
1. I think that what you mean by "vocabulary" is the root stock of the Hebrew language. I believe that the multi-consonantal Hebrew root is a merger of uni-consonantal roots.***
No the stock of roots is not the same as the vocabulary which is made up of actual words (or maybe we can also include stems).
It's always fairly difficult to know what the speakers consider a "root".
The hyper consonantic dismantling of Semitic languages is somewhat artificial.
We can reconstruct words with their vowels, not just consonant roots.
Father is *)ab not just root *)b, a "root" that does not make much sense in fact.
I suppose you mean "addition" of uni-consonantal roots rather than fusion.
I don't think you can build a reasonable case for that theory.
You will probably fall in the trap of "etymological furor".
A.
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2. I don't "decree" anything, I merely express my belief that the I and U (also E and O) sounds in the Hebrew word are identity markers. The ancient Hebrews did not waste the I and U sounds just for twitting and tutting like birds.
What does "identity markers" mean?
A.
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3. The ancient Hebrews did not construct their language by means of "prefixes", "infixes" and "suffixes".
What is the t- of talmud then?
A.
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4. The Hebrew language is "primitive" in the sense that in it word = root + identity markers. Nothing can be simpler, or more "primitive", than that.
Actually word = stem (and no consonantal root) is even more simple.
Most languages apply that.
In my opinion the Semitic resort to vocalic schemes in verbs is certainly not primitive.
It's a late and localized innovation that has not happened in other languages.
Arnaud Fournet
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix,
Isaac Fried, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Pere Porta, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/18/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/20/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/20/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Arnaud Fournet, 11/21/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/21/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix,
Isaac Fried, 11/17/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix, Isaac Fried, 11/18/2010
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