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- From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
- To: Gary Hedrick <GaryH AT cjfm.org>
- Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key
- Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:59:56 -0500
Hello Gary;
The question in my humble opinion, equals:
a. not whether we're dealing with rocket science or building a simple room
air conditioner;
b. but, whether the english translation can happen at all, at least beyond
rough approximation.
The insusceptibility of biblical hebrew to english translation reveals
itself all across the masoretc text. Witness a few verses down in numbers
31:19, 20, the hitpael form תתחטאו . This verb ordinarily and primarily
means to sin or miss the mark. The intensive forms of the verb however,
cause the verb meaning to reverse course and indicate "purification." No
single english word carries the double and opposite meanings of both "to
sin" and "purification from sin." Translation of such a hebrew word into
english becomes not rocket science; and not akin to building a room air
conditioner; but rather represents impossibility.
regards,
fred burlingame
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Gary Hedrick <GaryH AT cjfm.org> wrote:
> Translation is always an endeavor of context. We derive meanings from the
> way a word is used. It wouldn't make sense, for example, to say that David
> went out to battle against so-and-so's "tangible property." Admittedly, it's
> not always this clear; but it's usually not rocket science, either.
>
> Gary Hedrick
> San Antonio, Texas USA
>
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:37 AM, "Paul Zellmer" <pzellmer AT sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Why limit the “consumer’s” options to “army” or “tangible property”? Why
> not the other concepts that the word is used to express in other situations?
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Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key
, (continued)
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Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key,
Paul Zellmer, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Kevin Riley, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Yigal Levin, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Kevin Riley, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/03/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key,
Paul Zellmer, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Paul Zellmer, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Gary Hedrick, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Arnaud Fournet, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Arnaud Fournet, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, Hedrick Gary, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/03/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key - THREAD CLOSED, Yigal Levin, 11/03/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key,
fred burlingame, 11/02/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key,
dwashbur, 11/02/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key, fred burlingame, 11/02/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] lock without a key,
dwashbur, 11/02/2010
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