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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS
- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:23:00 -0700
George:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM, George Athas
<George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>wrote:
> Karl, I don’t think the reasoning you’ve given works. First of all, every
> book is its own unit. Yes, there may be deliberate connections to other
> books, but each book is it’s own unit with its own beginning. But that, I
> don’t think, is all that important in the larger scheme of things. It’s the
> concept of continuity of sequentiality that I have an issue with.
>
> Take, for example, the narrator’s listing of Israel’s sins in 2 Kgs 17:
>
> V.7 ויהי...וייראו
> V.8 וילכו
> V.9 ויחפאו
> V.10 ויצבו
> V.11 ויקטרו
> V.12 ויעבדו
> etc.
>
> Are these sins in a sequence because they are all given in wayyiqtols?
Who said anything about sequence? Or more accurately, who limited it to
sequentiality? Not I.
But these do connect together as far as the narration is concerned, that
that which is stated later is connected to what was stated earlier, and that
they all add up to a complete picture.
> I think the notion of continuation or sequentiality can’t work in this
> passage. I would argue that the wayyiqtols here produce a narrative momentum
> that moves the storyline forward by basically letting you ‘watch’ the action
> happen ‘live’, as it were. Each new wayyiqtol brings you to another action
> to watch ‘live’. Now, in the average story, most actions happen to be told
> in sequence, but that’s not the result of the wayyiqtol; it’s just an
> incidental detail of the way narratives are told. Sequentiality certainly
> does not explain the wayyiqtols in 2 Kgs 17, where it’s an accumulation of
> things that are being brought to our attention. But, each action is being
> separated out for us to ‘watch’ and, therefore, share the narrator’s horror
> and evaluation of each and every sin being mentioned. It builds momentum,
> but it’s not about continuity or sequentiality.
>
>
> GEORGE ATHAS
> Moore Theological College (Sydney, Australia)
> www.moore.edu.au
>
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Karl W. Randolph.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
Randall Buth, 08/12/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, Rolf Furuli, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
Randall Buth, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, Rolf Furuli, 08/15/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/14/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
Jack Kilmon, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
George Athas, 08/12/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, K Randolph, 08/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, George Athas, 08/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, dwashbur, 08/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, Rolf Furuli, 08/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, K Randolph, 08/14/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS, George Athas, 08/15/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
George Athas, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
Randall Buth, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
Randall Buth, 08/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Emerging consensus (and paedogogy) on "Waw Consecutive" PSS,
K Randolph, 08/11/2010
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