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- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3
- Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:00:02 -0700
Arnaud:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Arnaud Fournet
<fournet.arnaud AT wanadoo.fr>wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: K Randolph
> To: Arnaud Fournet
> Cc: JimStinehart AT aol.com ; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:08 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3
>
>
>
> ***
> I'm interested to have an example of "wrong" vowels.
> A.
> ***
>
>
> You just joined this list, but here’s a posting I made earlier on the same
> subject that covers the question in greater detail, giving two examples:
>
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/b-hebrew/2010-June/042213.html
>
> Karl W. Randolph
> ***
>
> To be frank, I'm not really convinced by this example (Proverbs 1:19).
> My objection is that proverbs and "fossilized" or ritual (or legal)
> formulas tend to present odd syntactical features.
> Cf. Boys will be boys (not a future),
Yes a future, from the culturally recognized deitic center.
> dura lex sed lex (no verb), etc. Some sentences of Archaic Latin in Plautus
> are just amazing.
>
> In that example you are trying to interpret a similar formula according to
> the regular synchronic syntax.
> There may be a flaw in that process. But I'm not competent enough in the
> language to say if you are right or not.
> This is more a theoretical objection.
> I noticed "KN with its **implied** “to be” ": so the syntax is indeed odd!?
>
No, that is a common use of that word. The context indicates whether that
implicit “to be” be made explicit or not. Standard procedure in the
language.
> What would be a regular sentence with the same meaning and the same words?
>
That’s just it, I made two regular sentences out of what is otherwise
twisted grammar that really doesn’t mean anything as pointed.
>
> Arnaud Fournet
>
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3
, (continued)
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/28/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, James Christian, 07/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/29/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, Arnaud Fournet, 07/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, K Randolph, 07/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, Arnaud Fournet, 07/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, K Randolph, 07/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, Arnaud Fournet, 07/30/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/29/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/29/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/28/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/28/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, Arnaud Fournet, 07/29/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, Arnaud Fournet, 07/29/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/29/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/29/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
jimstinehart, 07/30/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/30/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3, jimstinehart, 07/31/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
Arnaud Fournet, 07/30/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
jimstinehart, 07/30/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] H-XT-Y at II Samuel 11: 3,
K Randolph, 07/29/2010
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