Biblical Hebrew Forum

[K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>]

Randall and Yitzhak:

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Randall Buth <randallbuth AT gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > Karl apparently doesn't see that the Waw connects with the Aleph
> > and is therefore longer.  Note that the Aleph's left leg has a "serif"
> > going to the right and down, unlike all other Alephs...
>

I have a .pdf file from Tim Hegg with a photograph of the scrap. I noticed
that the writer did not have the most even of hand writing, but that his
waws were noticeably longer than his yods, and in the verse in question,
that the yod stops short of reaching the aleph. In other words, there is a
noticeable gap between the yod and the aleph.

>
> thank you for the ms reference/picture.
> I was not referring to the DS manuscript but to general Hebrew
> structure.
>
> However, while the structure is possible, the semantics are NOT
> a good reading, since only ra'a "he saw" normallly takes a b-
> preposition for its object, and that for a specific idiom meaning to
> 'boast in victory over'.


What about 1 Samuel 16:1? 1 Samuel 1:11? Esther 8:6? Psalm 66:18? But most
of the time where R)H is followed with a B- prefix, it refers to a place,
“in”. I have yet to find anywhere in Biblical Hebrew where that specific
idiom is used (possible I missed one).

Incidentally, YR) to fear is followed by a B- prefix in poetry, e.g. Psalm
46:2, 49:5 and Jeremiah 51:46.


> Consequently, without even looking at the
> manuscript, I would read this as hemma yabbiTu, yir'u vi
> 'they will watch, they will gloat over me in victory'
> (or some such similar English). And even if the yod
> and vav were not clear in that particular manuscript,
> I would read it that way.


Are you taking post-Biblical Hebrew and applying it to Biblical Hebrew,
again?


> Reading handwriting is partially by what
> is written and partially by what makes sense. Every letter in
> a handwritten text does not need to be clear, as we prove everyday
> in any language when we scribble off a note to someone.
>
> PS: I also renamed the thread because these comments do not
> refer to the issue of using the MT vowels for internalization a
> dialect of Hebrew, but refers to a specific reading of Psalm 22:18.
>
> Randall Buth
>
>
> Karl W. Randolph.