Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>]

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> Everything that is אסוף is אשפה
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
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Dear Isaac,

I'm afraid that me and 90 % to 99 % of members on this list do not
understand you.

Are you able to come down from your hights and write in a way we all can
understand what you are saying?

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)


>
> On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Pere Porta wrote:
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>   Rivka,
>>
>> yes, you're right if we deal with the formal appearance of the word,
>> namely
>> the form we see and read...
>> But in its use in 1Sa 2:8; Psa 113:7; Neh 3:14 and other places this noun
>> is
>> used as a singular masculine.
>> Remark that in these verses  A$POT has no meaning related to that of
>> A$PFH,
>> *quiver for arrows* (Job 39:23).
>>
>> Maybe it is a plural feminine fossilized form? It is possible.
>> But... that is used in the forementioned verses as a singular masculine
>> with
>> a quite different meaning from that of A$PFH...
>>
>> You will agree with me that a *quiver for arrows* has nothing to do
>> with a*refuse-heap
>> *...
>>
>> Pere Porta
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 February 2010 22:38, Yodan <yodan AT yodanco.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Pere Porta wrote: "Now, regarding "A$POT",… its is a masculine noun
>>> meaning *refuse-heap, a beggar's resting place.*"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ashpa is a feminine noun. Ashpot and Ashpatot are plural forms of the
>>> feminine noun Ashpa.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rivka Sherman-gold
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>>> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:
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>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:38 PM
>>> To: Doug Belot
>>> Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Better concordance?
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>>>
>>>>
>>>  Dear list members,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>  I had many situations over the years where I couldn't find a word in
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>  Abraham Even-Shoshan concordance. The latest was when I tried to locate
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>  "me'ashpatot yarim evyon" (can't remember where it is in the HB [has to
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> be
>>>>
>>>
>>>  a Psalm] or translate it) - ashpatot is not mentioned at all, only
>>>>>
>>>> ashpa,
>>>
>>>  and I could not find the verb yarim in any form, in any binyan. Is
>>>>>
>>>> there
>>>
>>> a
>>>>
>>>
>>>  better, really complete Hebrew concordance of the HB?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>  thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>  Noam Eitan, Brooklyn, NY
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Noam,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Several years ago I used the "Davidson", where every word that appears in
>>>
>>> the Hebrew Bible is fully parsed, but I have it nor more on my desk.
>>> Maybe
>>>
>>> you could acquire it... I think the full author's name is Benjamin
>>> Davidson.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, regarding "A$POT", I think it should be found in a usual Concordance
>>>
>>> because it appears both in Psa 113:7 and in 1Sa 2:8: its is a masculine
>>> noun
>>>
>>> meaning *refuse-heap, a beggar's resting place.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I assume you know that the "M" in the beginning is the well known
>>>
>>> preposition "MN", that means *from, since...*
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Regarding "YFRYM" is comes from "RWM", *be high*. It is a Hiph'il form
>>>
>>> (Imperfect, third person singular masculine)
>>>
>>> Look at www.oham.net/out/PI-d/PI-d066.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> EBYWN I think you should find it in your dictionary: it is an adjective
>>>
>>> meaning "(male) poor". It appears as such 15 times in the Bible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe this helps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hearty,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pere Porta
>>>
>>> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Span)
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Pere Porta
"Ei nekrói ouk eguéirontai, fágomen kai píomen áurion gar apothnéskomen"
(1Cor 15:32)