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[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

Everything that is אסוף is אשפה

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Pere Porta wrote:

> Rivka,
>
> yes, you're right if we deal with the formal appearance of the  
> word, namely
> the form we see and read...
> But in its use in 1Sa 2:8; Psa 113:7; Neh 3:14 and other places  
> this noun is
> used as a singular masculine.
> Remark that in these verses  A$POT has no meaning related to that  
> of A$PFH,
> *quiver for arrows* (Job 39:23).
>
> Maybe it is a plural feminine fossilized form? It is possible.
> But... that is used in the forementioned verses as a singular  
> masculine with
> a quite different meaning from that of A$PFH...
>
> You will agree with me that a *quiver for arrows* has nothing to do
> with a*refuse-heap
> *...
>
> Pere Porta
>
>
>
> On 21 February 2010 22:38, Yodan <yodan AT yodanco.com> wrote:
>
> >  Pere Porta wrote: "Now, regarding "A$POT",… its is a masculine  
> > noun
> > meaning *refuse-heap, a beggar's resting place.*"
> >
> >
> >
> > Ashpa is a feminine noun. Ashpot and Ashpatot are plural forms of the
> > feminine noun Ashpa.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rivka Sherman-gold
> >
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> > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:
> > b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Pere Porta
> > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:38 PM
> > To: Doug Belot
> > Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Better concordance?
> >
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> > >
> >
> > > > Dear list members,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I had many situations over the years where I couldn't find a  
> > > > word in
> >
> > > > Abraham Even-Shoshan concordance. The latest was when I tried to  
> > > > locate
> >
> > > > "me'ashpatot yarim evyon" (can't remember where it is in the HB  
> > > > [has to
> >
> > > be
> >
> > > > a Psalm] or translate it) - ashpatot is not mentioned at all, only
> > ashpa,
> >
> > > > and I could not find the verb yarim in any form, in any binyan. Is
> > there
> >
> > > a
> >
> > > > better, really complete Hebrew concordance of the HB?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > thanks,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Noam Eitan, Brooklyn, NY
> >
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> >
> > ______________
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Noam,
> >
> >
> >
> > Several years ago I used the "Davidson", where every word that  
> > appears in
> >
> > the Hebrew Bible is fully parsed, but I have it nor more on my  
> > desk. Maybe
> >
> > you could acquire it... I think the full author's name is Benjamin
> > Davidson.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, regarding "A$POT", I think it should be found in a usual  
> > Concordance
> >
> > because it appears both in Psa 113:7 and in 1Sa 2:8: its is a  
> > masculine
> > noun
> >
> > meaning *refuse-heap, a beggar's resting place.*
> >
> >
> >
> > I assume you know that the "M" in the beginning is the well known
> >
> > preposition "MN", that means *from, since...*
> >
> > **
> >
> > Regarding "YFRYM" is comes from "RWM", *be high*. It is a Hiph'il  
> > form
> >
> > (Imperfect, third person singular masculine)
> >
> > Look at www.oham.net/out/PI-d/PI-d066.html
> >
> >
> >
> > EBYWN I think you should find it in your dictionary: it is an  
> > adjective
> >
> > meaning "(male) poor". It appears as such 15 times in the Bible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe this helps?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hearty,
> >
> >
> >
> > Pere Porta
> >
> > (Barcelona, Catalonia, Span)
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> > Pere Porta
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> > "Ei nekrói ouk eguéirontai, fágomen kai píomen áurion gar  
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> apothnéskomen"
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