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- From: Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz>
- To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:54:19 +0100
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 05:23:39PM -0800, K Randolph wrote:
> Petr:
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:14:30AM -0800, K Randolph wrote:
> > >. I also have a list of 17
> > > verses where the Masoretes admit to changing the verses, …
> >
> > which list exactly do you mean?
> >
> >
> Gen 18:22
> Num 11:15
> Num 12:12
> 1 Sam 3:13
> 2 Sam 16:12
> 2 Sam 20:1
> 1 Kgs 12:16
> Jer 2:11
> Ezek 8:17
> Hos 4:7
> Hab 1:12
> Zech 2:12
> Mal 1:13
> Job 7:20
> Job 32:3
> Lam 3:20
> 2 Chron 10:16
OK, so you mean the "Tiqqunei sopherim" which are mentioned not only by
massoretes,
but in the rabbinic litterature as well (there do exist several versions with
different number of biblical passages).
They are mentioned in (according to E. Tov):
1) Sifre 84 (Num 10:35) - 8 passages
2) Mekhilta d' r. Jishmael 6 (Ex 15:7) - 11 passages
3) Tanhuma Beshallakh 16 (Ex 15:7) - 18 passages
4) Okhla we-Okhla nr. 168 - 18 passages
It is however questionable if those lists are real "textual witnesses" or
whether
they are rather of midrashic nature...
> Now that I look at it again, I realize that I excerpted it from somewhere,
> but I don’t remember where. And this is where they admit to it.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
Gary Hedrick, 11/12/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
K Randolph, 11/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
Petr Tomasek, 11/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
K Randolph, 11/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
Petr Tomasek, 11/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
K Randolph, 11/17/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, Petr Tomasek, 11/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
James Christian, 11/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, K Randolph, 11/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, James Christian, 11/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, Petr Tomasek, 11/19/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, James Christian, 11/20/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, James Christian, 11/22/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, K Randolph, 11/22/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
K Randolph, 11/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
Petr Tomasek, 11/17/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
K Randolph, 11/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
Petr Tomasek, 11/16/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?,
K Randolph, 11/16/2009
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [b-hebrew] Is the Massoretic text reliable?, Randall Buth, 11/18/2009
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