Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Steve Miller" <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net>]

Hi Kenneth,
As usual, I underestimated the thought and knowledge you put into your
translations.

There are 2 Strongs #'s for et. The one I was thinking of was #853, which
points to the direct object. Strongs assigns the preposition et another no.,
#854. It is the same spelled word, differentiated according to context. This
is what Kirk Lowery replied. I was not aware #854 existed except when it has
a pronoun suffix. 

#854 is used in 723 verses. I looked thru the uses in Genesis. There are
many links of noun with pronoun when a suffix added to et. Eventually I
found a clear link of noun to noun just using et. It is: 
Ge 42:13  And they said, Thy servants were twelve brethren, sons of one man,
in the land of Canaan; and behold, the youngest is this day *with* our
father, and one is not.

So, I was wrong in what I said about et not relating 2 nouns, and I withdraw
that objection to your translations.

Sincerely,
-Steve Miller
www.voiceInWilderness.info
The Lord send your help from the sanctuary,
out of Zion support thee,
remember all your offerings,
and consume your burnt offering. Selah (Psalm 20:2-3)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kenneth greifer
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:06 PM
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [b-hebrew] Zechariah 4:6-7
> 
> 
> Steve,
> 
> 
> 
> You treat the Tanakh like a dictionary. You think every word is in there
> in every possible form and use, so you can come up with every possible
> rule for every word. I think you are assuming that your rule about "with"
> is true, and I am not going to try to prove you wrong. I don't have a
> computer program to look up every place that word is used, and I don't
> think it matters anyway because your rule is so unusual.
> 
> 
> 
> It would be like looking for the word house in the Tanakh and seeing it
> used as "my house", "his house", etc, but never as "their house", so then
> you can say the word "house" can't be used with "their" because the Tanakh
> never used it that way.
> 
> 
> 
> Kenneth Greifer