Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

Bryant,

The QIYNIYM of Ezekiel 2:10 is the plural of QIYNAH ( קִינָה ),  
'lamentation', written, universally methinks, with a yod, as in  
Jeremiah 7:29. It is KTIB MALE) and, as expected, with no dagesh. The  
QINIYM of Genesis 6:14 is the plural of QEN, ( קֵן ), 'nest,  
compartment'. It is KTIB XASER and, as expected, with a dagesh  
following the XIRIQ.
I think a double consonant should not be written in an English  
transcription if it is absent in the Hebrew text --- there is N and  
there is N., which is fine.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Feb 28, 2009, at 12:43 AM, Bryant J. Williams III wrote:

> Dear Yitzhak,
>
> BHS,  which uses  Leningrad Codex [B19A(L)] has QINNIYM  
> ( קִנִּים ) in Genesis
> 6:14 and QINIYM ( קִנִים )Ezekiel 2:10.
>
> The NIV Triglot OT, using the text of van der Hooght (1705) as  
> edited by Hahn
> (1831) has QINNIYM ( קנִים ) in Genesis 6:14 and QIYNIYM   
> ( קִינִים ) in Ezekiel
> 2:10.
>
> Thus, it appears that we have two different textual traditions  
> being used.
>
> Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
> To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Any meaning to the Dagesh?
>
>
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Isaac Fried wrote:
> > > Yitzhak,
> > >
> > > By writing "qibbacu" you subvert the hebrew text. Apart from the  
> > > A vowel
> > > that I don't see there, it is written with only one B.
> >
> > One of us is definitely subverting something.
> >
> > > The QINIYM ( קִנִּים ) of Gn 6:14 is written in QTIB XASER,  
> > > without a yod,
> > > and the dagesh is appropriately expected after the XIRIQ. The  
> > > doubling of N
> > > is your own invention. The QIYNIYM ( קִינִים ) of Ez 2:10  
> > > is written in
> > > QTIB MALE), with a yod, and appropriately without a dagesh.
> >
> > This brings up the basic question: Which came first -- your  
> > theories or your
> > version of the Bible? :)
> >
> > Yitzhak Sapir
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